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newrepontheblock
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Post by newrepontheblock »

It was a written offer. Will see area rep today, so I will bring it up with him today
celtic1967
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Post by celtic1967 »

newrepontheblock wrote:It was a written offer. Will see area rep today, so I will bring it up with him today
Let us know the outcome please, good luck too
mightyowler
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Post by mightyowler »

newrepontheblock wrote:It was a written offer. Will see area rep today, so I will bring it up with him today
I was asked last week if I would consider IHR due to long term sickness (7 months absence) had my OH assist appointment few weeks back in which it states I can’t perform my duty at present but could perform other work within the business.

Apparently HR have been looking for something suitable but tbh I get the impression they’ll just leave me hanging until I see a specialist in May as Royal Mail have stopped paying me as I have received 28 weeks sick pay.

What I found strange about the conversation when discussing the process of IHR, management said I would have to put myself forward for retirement?

I asked what RM would offer I was told 34 weeks 12 weeks pilon. So I asked if it’s possible to have some figures in writing so I can think it over and I was told probably not!

So basically I put myself forward for retirement and they offer peanuts?
goldy
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Post by goldy »

What is the procedure or protocol for IHR? Do they give you a chance at redeployment or do they find impractical positions so they can just retire you ? Do they follow the process or bypass parts of it?
I would imagine they could leave themselves exposed to disability discrimination.
celtic1967
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Post by celtic1967 »

goldy wrote:What is the procedure or protocol for IHR? Do they give you a chance at redeployment or do they find impractical positions so they can just retire you ? Do they follow the process or bypass parts of it?
I would imagine they could leave themselves exposed to disability discrimination.
They went through what they called a scoping exercise looking at what i could and couldnt do and looking at alternate work if any available
newrepontheblock
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Post by newrepontheblock »

Basically , some areas are seeing the usual agreed IHR agreement being disregarded. Branch sec is in London soon and going to take it up with the top brass. Looks like Rico is trying to offload people on the cheap. How they are calculating the offers is a mystery as people with longer service being offered less than those who are junior.
celtic1967
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Post by celtic1967 »

newrepontheblock wrote:Basically , some areas are seeing the usual agreed IHR agreement being disregarded. Branch sec is in London soon and going to take it up with the top brass. Looks like Rico is trying to offload people on the cheap. How they are calculating the offers is a mystery as people with longer service being offered less than those who are junior.
Disgraceful, but not suprised. There is a set formula of 34 weeks plus up to 12 weeks PILON. These senior managers have no interest in the company , staff,service or customers.All they are interested is getting as much for themselves as possible. What goes around comes around.
thewayforward
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Post by thewayforward »

zipmeister wrote:
agassi_2 wrote:I know about the reductions 5% a year if you take it early. I know they could offer me another job within the business. I was just wondering if anyone similar to my situation has any experience with being finished on IHR and how it affected their pension. Reading it seems there's 2 options for them to give you
The first option is the one explained by RobertT and the other option is IHR with benefits I had to deal with a FT postman 58 years old ,30 odd years service who was offered option 1 we appealed that he would never work again so eventually he was offered IHR with benefits and for him this consisted of:
Pension paid up and immediate access
PILON taxable
3 years paid at half pay
after the 3 years he would be medically assessed and if he was in the same state he would receive £29,000 lump sum, partially able to work £17,000 and if recovered enough to work with no problems he would receive no payout
This was over a year ago but I have not heard of any changes.
Do you know if in the 2nd option there is also the choice of 34 weeks pay (untaxed) plus pilon along with enhanced pension with immediate access? It would be a cheaper option for the Company it appears but it does mean a clean break for the individual,which for some folk may be what the they wish for.
goldy
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Post by goldy »

The calculation seems to be 6months basic pay
and 1/80th of average annual basic pay multiplied by the number of years over 5 years service plus PILON at least 9 weeks .This is only for staff over 5 years.
goldy
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Post by goldy »

The calculation seems to be 6months basic pay
and 1/80th of average annual basic pay multiplied by the number of years over 5 years service plus PILON at least 9 weeks .This is only for staff over 5 years.
Rob2081
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Post by Rob2081 »

Was anybody able to find out what the actual calculation is for IHR. Thanks
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Post by P13 »

Rob2081 wrote:Was anybody able to find out what the actual calculation is for IHR. Thanks
It is meant to be 34 weeks pay and between 9 and 12 weeks pilon
Rob2081
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Post by Rob2081 »

P13 wrote:
Rob2081 wrote:Was anybody able to find out what the actual calculation is for IHR. Thanks
It is meant to be 34 weeks pay and between 9 and 12 weeks pilon
Thank you when you say it’s meant to be does that mean they are not always doing it that way
k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

Rob2081 wrote:
P13 wrote:
Rob2081 wrote:Was anybody able to find out what the actual calculation is for IHR. Thanks
It is meant to be 34 weeks pay and between 9 and 12 weeks pilon
Thank you when you say it’s meant to be does that mean they are not always doing it that way
Well If they don't just stay on the sick.
tractorboy2
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Post by tractorboy2 »

It is 34 weeks plus 1 week for each year of service (after 2 years) up to a maximum of 12 weeks.