Can I refuse to deliver to second home owners?

Post by **POSTMAN** » 05 Apr 2020, 12:19

To report you have to go to the appropriate police forces web page by the looks of it.

Post by **wacko74** » 05 Apr 2020, 14:44

clashcityrocker wrote:
wacko74 wrote: Do please expand on how I'm being ''pointless and judgemental'' when I raise an issue regarding people blatantly disregarding the requests of health experts, politicians and police to stay at home and not make unnecessary journeys, especially with regards to people travelling to holiday homes in areas where local medical facilities and ICU provisions are already at a minimal level without having to cope with the effects of a pandemic?
What if she was one of those former NHS staff who have returned to work and she has come to help in those local medical facilities that are having to cope?
What if she needs to isolate from someone very vulnerable at her other home?
What if she has come to look after an elderly relative nearby?
Do you know anything about why she has travelled to be at this place?

And bear in mind you have gone from "she definitely has it" to there being a 50-50 chance of her having it.
People cough for many different reasons. She may be asthmatic, something may have just gone down the wrong way or maybe she just put too much pepper on her eggs Benedict.

Maybe she lives in an area with a high number of cases and (like a lot of people) is s**t scared and felt the need to get away for her own sanity.
Maybe you are right. Maybe she has ignored all warnings (like so many people) and decided to travel anyway. Maybe she is a terrible person.
But you diagnosed her and decided all that without actually knowing anything and now you are going to report her.
Perhaps the biggest casualty of all this will be our compassion, our understanding and our humanity.

So there were at least 3 holiday home owners staying at holiday homes on the one duty I was on, times that by the 70 odd duties that cover my area and that gives approximately 210 holiday homes all currently occupied despite the restrictions and pleas by all the experts to not travel.

This is an area where the LHA has a grand total 8 ICU beds.

As for the supposedly ''valid'' reasons that you're desperately trying to offer, I think you're demonstrating that the real problem today is actually too much misguided and misplaced compassion... usually displayed by weak minded and gullible liberal types who for whatever reason find themselves insulated from the realities of life and allow themselves to be brainwashed into being the modern day ''useful idiots'' of the Corporatists and Globalists who are doing so much damage to the vast majority of society whilst enhancing the wealth of the wealthiest few.

Post by **wacko74** » 05 Apr 2020, 14:57

POSTMAN wrote:To report you have to go to the appropriate police forces web page by the looks of it.

Have done, they've got back to me and asked for further details but not indicated what (if any) action they will be taking.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 05 Apr 2020, 16:35

I haven't seen my 2 daughters since the lockdown, my grandkids, one is a couple of months old.
Next door skanks regularly have visitors and one daughter and grandchild is there now.
The kids are druggies and are regularly out till the early mornings.
The woman of the house has COPD glue lungs thing and will surely die if she gets the virus.
On Monday the man of the house, over 70yrs old, was out at 8 clapping his heart out for the NHS.
My wife cried the other day and is holding back for a row with em.

You couldn't make this s**t up.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 05 Apr 2020, 16:59

A far better course of action is to dob them into the local police or the press it works trust me!

Post by **Steve_claret** » 05 Apr 2020, 17:42

kingofdonair wrote:I deliver to a couple of seaside villages that are starting to see second home owners turn up despite government advice. Can I refuse to deliver? They are a risk compared to the locals, I'm not to keen on touching their gates and doors etc. And I fell like they should be ostracised anyway.

Definitely don't deliver if it is a second home owned by Scotland's Chief Medical Officer, Catherine Calderwood. What an absolute plank she is.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 05 Apr 2020, 17:45

Would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the cops turned up at her house which ever one it was!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 05 Apr 2020, 18:12

This whole thread got me thinking how do you insure your car with two addressees how do you update your driving licence do you get a discount for multi homes insurance? what do you do with them when your not residing in them rent them out do you pay tax on that? Is it no wonder their is a housing crisis? As to the OP sorry for any offence by saying XENOPHOBIA but we have gained so much insight how some very privileged people flout the rules made by them for us which do not apply to them!

sorefeet17 · Post by **sorefeet17** » 05 Apr 2020, 18:25

k979aaa wrote:This whole thread got me thinking how do you insure your car with two addressees how do you update your driving licence do you get a discount for multi homes insurance? what do you do with them when your not residing in them rent them out do you pay tax on that? Is it no wonder their is a housing crisis? As to the OP sorry for any offence by saying XENOPHOBIA but we have gained so much insight how some very privileged people flout the rules made by them for us which do not apply to them!

If renting them out then they should declare the income to the tax man, there's loads of second homes in my area some are holiday lets fair enough at least they provide a purpose, the others you might see people in them for one or two weeks a year if that! They are all full now though as the rich are escaping from the Cities.

scoobydo79 · Post by **scoobydo79** » 05 Apr 2020, 18:33

I’ve noticed it on My round.Houses that have been empty since last summer suddenly I’m going there with a BT hub marked safeplace.Couple of days later family of 4 + living there

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k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 05 Apr 2020, 18:36

sorefeet17 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:This whole thread got me thinking how do you insure your car with two addressees how do you update your driving licence do you get a discount for multi homes insurance? what do you do with them when your not residing in them rent them out do you pay tax on that? Is it no wonder their is a housing crisis? As to the OP sorry for any offence by saying XENOPHOBIA but we have gained so much insight how some very privileged people flout the rules made by them for us which do not apply to them!
If renting them out then they should declare the income to the tax man, there's loads of second homes in my area some are holiday lets fair enough at least they provide a purpose, the others you might see people in them for one or two weeks a year if that! They are all full now though as the rich are escaping from the Cities.

Most of them probably went to the cheltenham festival and are distributing it about here there and every where. Do you really think they would declare other income? Should second homes be banned?

sorefeet17 · Post by **sorefeet17** » 05 Apr 2020, 18:58

k979aaa wrote:
sorefeet17 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:This whole thread got me thinking how do you insure your car with two addressees how do you update your driving licence do you get a discount for multi homes insurance? what do you do with them when your not residing in them rent them out do you pay tax on that? Is it no wonder their is a housing crisis? As to the OP sorry for any offence by saying XENOPHOBIA but we have gained so much insight how some very privileged people flout the rules made by them for us which do not apply to them!
If renting them out then they should declare the income to the tax man, there's loads of second homes in my area some are holiday lets fair enough at least they provide a purpose, the others you might see people in them for one or two weeks a year if that! They are all full now though as the rich are escaping from the Cities.
Most of them probably went to the cheltenham festival and are distributing it about here there and every where. Do you really think they would declare other income? Should second homes be banned?

They would just find loopholes to get around any ban, put house in partners name or say it's a holiday let and get some friends to pretend to rent it out.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 05 Apr 2020, 19:29

sorefeet17 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
sorefeet17 wrote:
k979aaa wrote:This whole thread got me thinking how do you insure your car with two addressees how do you update your driving licence do you get a discount for multi homes insurance? what do you do with them when your not residing in them rent them out do you pay tax on that? Is it no wonder their is a housing crisis? As to the OP sorry for any offence by saying XENOPHOBIA but we have gained so much insight how some very privileged people flout the rules made by them for us which do not apply to them!
If renting them out then they should declare the income to the tax man, there's loads of second homes in my area some are holiday lets fair enough at least they provide a purpose, the others you might see people in them for one or two weeks a year if that! They are all full now though as the rich are escaping from the Cities.
Most of them probably went to the cheltenham festival and are distributing it about here there and every where. Do you really think they would declare other income? Should second homes be banned?
They would just find loopholes to get around any ban, put house in partners name or say it's a holiday let and get some friends to pretend to rent it out.

But given the restrictions not be able to travel to it. but in any case it does beg the question are some people earning too much? I know their are some wasters on the streets who never wanted to work but most would like a job a home and a life even if they have other problems like drink drugs and mental health issues we need a better society after this challenge to us all.

kingofdonair · Post by **kingofdonair** » 05 Apr 2020, 20:23

Don't worry about calling me a Xenophobe. I've been called much worse :-D
I will be reporting them to the local council tomorrow as they have asked people to do this. Im down in Cornwall and we have a higher than average elderly population with a grand total of 17 critical care beds in the Duchy.
Like they keep saying, the virus doesn't move, we move it.
On the subject of second homes. Yes it does make you wonder how much people earn. If your 2nd home is £1 million+ then how much is your London pad? A lot of people do register their cars down here because it's cheaper than London insurance. Another scam is that they are classed as businesses and occasionally rented out. This means they pay very little in business rates and sod all in Council Tax.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 05 Apr 2020, 20:27

kingofdonair wrote:Don't worry about calling me a Xenophobe. I've been called much worse :-D
I will be reporting them to the local council tomorrow as they have asked people to do this. Im down in Cornwall and we have a higher than average elderly population with a grand total of 17 critical care beds in the Duchy.
Like they keep saying, the virus doesn't move, we move it.
On the subject of second homes. Yes it does make you wonder how much people earn. If your 2nd home is £1 million+ then how much is your London pad? A lot of people do register their cars down here because it's cheaper than London insurance. Another scam is that they are classed as businesses and occasionally rented out. This means they pay very little in business rates and sod all in Council Tax.

Well you bought me round on your subject and I commend your effort for your community all the best and gods bless!