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New guidance around the use of private vehicles in delivery

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Woody Guthrie
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New guidance around the use of private vehicles in delivery

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https://www.myroyalmail.com/news/2020/0 ... e-vehicles"
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New guidance around the use of private vehicles in delivery

In light of our social distancing guidelines and temporary restrictions on van sharing, colleagues who wish to, can now use their private vehicles to reach their delivery points and meet their van share partner.

We have extended the Royal Mail insurance, which means that third party cover has been extended for private vehicles on delivery and any travel expenses incurred will be reimbursed (less home to office mileage).

We have worked for a number of years with the CWU to remove private vehicles from delivery, however, in the current environment, this will help keep colleagues safe and enable us to continue to deliver a vital service to our communities. We have been consulting with the CWU around this change in approach.

This is a temporary measure for three months only and can be withdrawn at any time.
Mail should not be carried in private vehicles and should still be collected from Royal Mail vans.

The private vehicle must be in a roadworthy condition and fit for purpose – if it is not, it must not be used on delivery.
The daily/pre-use vehicle checks required when using a Royal Mail vehicle must be undertaken - this must be monitored by managers in line with current processes. Where managers can’t see colleagues undertake pre-use checks (for example where they are undertaken at the colleague’s home), they should check with the colleague at least once a week that the pre-use checks are being undertaken and that the colleague’s private car remains in a roadworthy condition. These conversations should be documented.

The employee should be an existing driver within Royal Mail (and must not have been removed from driving duties).
Private vehicles must only be used to drive to and from the delivery office to the first point of delivery and if the car needs to be moved along the delivery route.
No-one else should be travelling in the private vehicle while the colleague is on duty.

If the colleague’s personal car insurance provider is a member of the Association of British Insurers’ (which can be checked online), then no further action is required by the colleague with respect to insurance. If it is not, the colleague must call their insurer and confirm how the vehicle will be used, otherwise their policy may be invalidated. They do not need to extend cover to business use.

The declaration document ‘use of private vehicles on delivery’ ( https://www.myroyalmail.com/sites/defau ... Y_v1.2.pdf) must be read and signed by colleagues prior to use of their private vehicle on delivery. T&S will be paid for colleagues’ mileage while on duty (less home to office mileage if they normally bring their car to work) – a copy of the process for doing this is here.(https://www.myroyalmail.com/sites/defau ... ployee.pdf)

If I work with my partner/housemate can we share a van to our delivery point or for other business?

No, in line with ‘social distancing’ guidelines from Public Health, the business has moved to one person in a vehicle at one time until further notice.
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SpacePhoenix
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Woody Guthrie wrote:If the colleague’s personal car insurance provider is a member of the Association of British Insurers’ (which can be checked online), then no further action is required by the colleague with respect to insurance. If it is not, the colleague must call their insurer and confirm how the vehicle will be used, otherwise their policy may be invalidated. They do not need to extend cover to business use.
I seriously doubt that any postie pulled over by the police would have that accepted by the police. My gut feeling is that the police would just treat it as a straight case of driving without insurance
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:If the colleague’s personal car insurance provider is a member of the Association of British Insurers’ (which can be checked online), then no further action is required by the colleague with respect to insurance. If it is not, the colleague must call their insurer and confirm how the vehicle will be used, otherwise their policy may be invalidated. They do not need to extend cover to business use.
I seriously doubt that any postie pulled over by the police would have that accepted by the police. My gut feeling is that the police would just treat it as a straight case of driving without insurance
Did it say 'third party insurance' ? No chance I'm using my car to go out to delivery.
rambo1
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It needs explaining or looking at more closely as I would think if you hit another car while driving your car for work purposes, DAMAGE TO YOUR CAR would not be covered by royal mail's or your own policy.
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It’s a no from me .
mags999
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go and get fuct hire a few more vans
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who the hell started all this car lark.royal mail or posties :shock:
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Seems years of employing idiots may pay off :crazy:
fb1969
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Post by fb1969 »

Third party only. I posted the other day, a big risk is someone seeing you get out of your car and heading off on delivery - and they assume there is post in the car. You come back to broken windows and door handles etc - that is not covered.

Just shows yet again that RM have no interest, care or concern about the people it employs.
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ripio
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Surely most people who have completed RM driver training are already driving a van at work? Certainly the case in our office.
So this won't actually help much, even if it were a sensible move to use your own car, which I don't think it is.
Acca Dacca
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ripio wrote:Surely most people who have completed RM driver training are already driving a van at work? Certainly the case in our office.
So this won't actually help much, even if it were a sensible move to use your own car, which I don't think it is.
Its to help two drivers who share a van - so both can drive to their delivery seperately
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Woody Guthrie
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Just had a quick look at at the employee declaration.
MANAGER COMPLETED VEHICLE CONDITION REPORT … YES/NO
You must review the vehicle on their first day of use, record all existing damage using the
‘Vehicle Condition Report’ and take photos or use video to capture the details wherever
possible.
DATE SIGNED…………………………………
Lol. :funneh
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themailman wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
ripio wrote:Surely most people who have completed RM driver training are already driving a van at work? Certainly the case in our office.
So this won't actually help much, even if it were a sensible move to use your own car, which I don't think it is.
Its to help two drivers who share a van - so both can drive to their delivery seperately
It's to help the company. That's the bottom line.

Deals to be done and blind eyes are being turned to try and clear as much mail as possible.
It could help some individuals who don't want to, or can't, work later in the day, or don't feel comfortable in an already used van with questionable decontamination.
Again, it's not for everyone...
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Post by ted_e_bear »

mags999 wrote:go and get fuct hire a few more vans
Exactly, same from me, arrange these two words....fuct get !!