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Post by aiden01 »

Acca Dacca wrote:He said doleys as well though whatever they are

That’s kinda why in my post I said “Doleys?”
Well ive no idea either maybe he will enlighten us.
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

aiden01 wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:He said doleys as well though whatever they are
That’s kinda why in my post I said “Doleys?”
Well ive no idea either maybe he will enlighten us.
From the Urban Dictionary:
doley
A layabout, paid by the government to do nothing but drink beer and shout at more affluent people.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Doley
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Post by wacko74 »

aiden01 wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:He said doleys as well though whatever they are

That’s kinda why in my post I said “Doleys?”
Well ive no idea either maybe he will enlighten us.

Jesus wept, this is a masterclass in veering off topic into the entirely irrelevant but I will explain...

Doleys... Like the young tattooed fellow who started chatting to me only this afternoon in the queue with his 12 pack of lagers telling me ''I'm alright mate, got me essential supplies for the afternoon in the garden'' I asked him was he currently furloughed and he gave me me a funny look obviously didn't have a clue what I was talking about, when I explained he said ''nah not me mate I don't work cos of me social anxiety''

or

Doleys... the young girl I deliver to with 3 kids who claims to be single when everyone knows the dad of one of her kids is living with her, who can still afford regular deliveries from BooHoo, ASOS, etc and claims single person ''working'' Tax Credits by having a non existent business with no actual customers (nail bar ran from her living room) which is just a front for claiming said tax credits

or

Doleys... the ''poor pensioner'' I deliver to who has 3 properties in Ireland and a six figure sum salted away in the Bank Of Ireland yet claims Pension Tax Credits in the uk entitling him to Council Tax benefit for his 4 bed detached house worth over 300k (oh and he's just had a brand new combi boiler for free courtesy of the tax payer)... he gave me a cheery wave when he drove past me the other day in his £30k Merc

Do you need any more examples of doleys?
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Post by Acca Dacca »

Ok so you meant benefit claimants

Stay classy
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Post by wacko74 »

Acca Dacca wrote:Ok so you meant benefit claimants

Stay classy

My apologies, I didn't realise you were one of those people that refuses to acknowledge that some people choose to be on benefits and are, at the very least, gaming the (highly flawed) benefits system if not actually committing out and out fraud

And for the record I happen to think that benefits should actually be far more generous than they currently are... for people who are genuinely deserving of them and find themselves needing to claim them through no fault of their own and with no other option.

Unfortunately from what I can see those genuine claimants are far outnumbered by people who use benefits as a lifestyle choice and are capable of gaming the system at best or committing out and out fraud at worst.
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Post by twoloops »

Acca Dacca wrote: Sorry I am in Scotland so its not a term im familiar with

I believe the jocks use the phrase Neds (Non Educated Delinquents)
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Post by LaggyBand »

On topic, if our office was on fire it would actually be less dangerous. Only those inside would die.

Social distancing is being ignored and it isn’t due to not being told; it just isn’t being enforced. Many posties are ignoring it indoors and management turn a blind eye.

Tips have gone to police. We’ll see the outcome.
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Post by Lapser »

Our office the same , nearly no-one wearing any PPE , manager and rep not enforcing it , if you don't feel safe in office , for indoor work , then you will get more outdoor work to make up hours !!!! You couldn't make this up , all this with no toilet facilities, as everywhere is shut !
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Post by Chelseablue »

Lapser if you dont feel safe at work then the gov told you what to do
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Post by Ren Hoëk »

wacko74 wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:Ok so you meant benefit claimants

Stay classy

My apologies, I didn't realise you were one of those people that refuses to acknowledge that some people choose to be on benefits and are, at the very least, gaming the (highly flawed) benefits system if not actually committing out and out fraud

And for the record I happen to think that benefits should actually be far more generous than they currently are... for people who are genuinely deserving of them and find themselves needing to claim them through no fault of their own and with no other option.

Unfortunately from what I can see those genuine claimants are far outnumbered by people who use benefits as a lifestyle choice and are capable of gaming the system at best or committing out and out fraud at worst.
No, you are generalising. It's no better than saying all posties are lazy. A common trope on the internet. Or that we all docket and run off etc. Some do but the vast majority don't.

These people you are talking about and they do exist are far outweighed by the worthy. These people are also unemployable by and large. Where would you have them working. I deliver to some right feckless, dirty scroungers. How much better off do you think you would be if we stopped their payments all together? The answer would be pence. Considering how much of the tax we contribute actually goes to this group you talk about.


24% of the tax we pay goes towards welfare.
I paid £3655 in NIC and income tax.
Thats £877 of my tax going on welfare.
1% of that welfare budget goes on unemployment (Job seekers, universal credit etc)
£8.77 of your tax goes on unemployment. A YEAR!
£0.17 a week.

How many as a percentage to you think are taking the piss?
Half? £4.39. £0.08 a week.
20%? £1.75. A YEAR! £0.03 a week.

Or are we considering people on disability a piss takers as well?
16% of the welfare budget goes to them. So coupled with unemployment that 17%.
17% of 877 is £149. A YEAR!
£2.87 a week.

How many are piss takers?
Half? £75. £1.44 a week.
20%? £30! A YEAR!! £0.58 a week.

Now consider that the percentage of people you think are taking the piss is probably much lower than 20% the figures really are irrelevant to our pay packet.

Now, Do you think these sums are worth you worrying about? More importantly do you think you should be denigrating these people?
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

all the bollocks about doleys
If ever there was a time to stop shoehorning personal political beliefs into important threads it's now.

Jamiemccloy wrote:Grandmother in law has been moved from her care home to hospital, she's contracted covid 19.
Sorry to hear that mate.
Hope she's OK.
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Post by CRIBMAD »

as a union member for 50 years i have to say we have been sold down the river by this union ! they are in royal mails pockets and its ok saying "walk out if you feel unsafe we will support you" - yeah right
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Post by HTPostman »

CRIBMAD wrote:as a union member for 50 years i have to say we have been sold down the river by this union ! they are in royal mails pockets and its ok saying "walk out if you feel unsafe we will support you" - yeah right
I feel the same. Not had any reps talk to us since our gate meeting before the ballot last year.

I’ve no doubt RM will push through their changes after we’ve got through coronavirus, few of us will be in a financial position to argue, and opportunities to find new jobs will be scarce. Then I’d expect people to leave the union.

The last year or so has been own goal after own goal.

Holiday pay - there should’ve been joint action against RM, instead of asking us individually to claim.

Ballot 1 - I don’t care who’s fault it is it was dismissed, the union should’ve hired the best solicitors in the land to ensure everything was legally sound.

Ballot 2 - Why come out with the rubbish about offering us as the 4th emergency service? I never saw a tick box for that on my ballot paper.

The virus - Walk out and we’ll support you. Wishy washy statements. No, how about you tell Rico and co what needs to be sorted to protect our health or we’ll all walk.

This is a huge letdown. And before anyone says why don’t I offer my services as a rep if I can do a better job - I can’t drive buses but if my bus driver ran over someone, kept going, hit a few cars, drove the wrong way up the dual carriageway I think we’d all have something to say about it
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Post by circles »

We'll be renationilised in the very near future being an "essential" industry.

That farce on Tuesday will be their final mistake.

No coming back from that.