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State of work is scary and so far from guidelines

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SpacePhoenix
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sindba wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
Gasman11 wrote:safe distance measures should be afforded to all staff.
Might be workable in DOs, it's not workable in MCs
Yes it is. It will just slow down the process ( a lot).

But so be it. Stay well.
No it isn't, setups aren't designed for that separation, also not workable on conveyor belts. There's not the room to make setups larger
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Need to stop messing around many posties will die if things don't change this week, minimal staff sorting parcels only and delivered at staggered times throughout the day and evening
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mybackhurts wrote:Need to stop messing around many posties will die if things don't change this week, minimal staff sorting parcels only and delivered at staggered times throughout the day and evening
Again, won't work in MCs as we'd run out of storage space, don't forget that a double-stacker arctic holds something like 90 yorks and any given MC will get multiple ones in during the night. If anything we're going to need more staff as with shops closing, a lot more people are going to be ordering stuff from online shops
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
mybackhurts wrote:Need to stop messing around many posties will die if things don't change this week, minimal staff sorting parcels only and delivered at staggered times throughout the day and evening
Again, won't work in MCs as we'd run out of storage space, don't forget that a double-stacker arctic holds something like 90 yorks and any given MC will get multiple ones in during the night. If anything we're going to need more staff as with shops closing, a lot more people are going to be ordering stuff from online shops
If you can't work safely then you need to stay at home. We all do.

This new virus induces pneumonia then kills, quickly, in all ages. It's not just a bad flu.

Do not risk your life for the sake of a mail backlog.
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sindba wrote:If you can't work safely then you need to stay at home. We all do
...and what about all those who get their prescriptions by post? What about those who've got anything due from hospitals/doctors (letters, appointment info etc)
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Doesn't matter if there is a backlog of bloody mail or parcels this is people's lives and their family's lives work safely and it's a lot safer with skeleton staff and staggered start times in delivery offices , don't work in a mail centre but would think similar practices would be necessary to keep people safe .
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
sindba wrote:If you can't work safely then you need to stay at home. We all do
...and what about all those who get their prescriptions by post? What about those who've got anything due from hospitals/doctors (letters, appointment info etc)

Then we deliver prescriptions and hospital letters , what else matters at this time?
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
sindba wrote:If you can't work safely then you need to stay at home. We all do
...and what about all those who get their prescriptions by post? What about those who've got anything due from hospitals/doctors (letters, appointment info etc)
Core service only. IF RM provide necessary precautions. It's up to them.

If not, we stay home. Otherwise, we contract and spread this plague, and people die.

This is so serious, throw away the rule book.
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Terry lets hear from you ,,
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mybackhurts wrote:Doesn't matter if there is a backlog of bloody mail or parcels this is people's lives and their family's lives work safely and it's a lot safer with skeleton staff and staggered start times in delivery offices , don't work in a mail centre but would think similar practices would be necessary to keep people safe .
mybackhurts wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
sindba wrote:If you can't work safely then you need to stay at home. We all do
...and what about all those who get their prescriptions by post? What about those who've got anything due from hospitals/doctors (letters, appointment info etc)

Then we deliver prescriptions and hospital letters , what else matters at this time?
We simply don't have the room to store anything that "isn't essential", if we shipped it to DOs to be stored, they'd also quickly run out of room. You'd have to stop it entering RM's network in the first place.
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We simply don't have the room to store anything that "isn't essential",
I don't think you're really understanding the seriousness of the situation.
All the usual rules have gone out the window.

A) We don't actually have to accept anything that 'isn't essential'.
It then becomes someone else's storage problem.
Do you genuinely believe that Ofcom is going to fine us if we say we're reducing the service to protect lives? The USO is meaningless at the moment.

B) Non essential crap is very likely to start to dry up shortly anyway. Businesses are closing left, right and centre, the streets are emptying, the country is shutting down. There DFS final clearance sale isn't going to happen next month.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:Do you genuinely believe that Ofcom is going to fine us if we say we're reducing the service to protect lives? The USO is meaningless at the moment.
Until the government or OFCOM give RM permission to reduce the services, the USO isn't meaningless. If anything I think they'll be more insistent on the USO being upheld, not all elderly people will have a phone, for some of them the post might be their only connection with the outside world.
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Is a farmfoods leaflet more important than our lifes?
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:Do you genuinely believe that Ofcom is going to fine us if we say we're reducing the service to protect lives? The USO is meaningless at the moment.
Until the government or OFCOM give RM permission to reduce the services, the USO isn't meaningless. If anything I think they'll be more insistent on the USO being upheld, not all elderly people will have a phone, for some of them the post might be their only connection with the outside world.
You're obsessed by the power of Ofcom SP. They're a quasi-government department funded by the people they are charged with overseeing. In a national crisis they're about as powerful as a security guard on a building site.

Do you think there are USO police waiting to smash through the windows at RM HQ?

All they could do is fine us, do you think under the present circumstances that fine would stick? The government are ripping up the rule books on government social intervention and fiscal policy, they're throwing money at companies to keep them afloat and shutting others down while guaranteeing the wages of their staff.

Do you genuinely think in the middle of that s**t storm Ofcom are going to fine us without the government telling them to STFU.

Yes we will be delivering crucial things like government advice and NHS documentation but if the company decides to tell specsavers to do one until this crisis is over nobody would or could drag RM over the coals for it without looking ridiculous.

Now a different question is whether RM has the balls to do it, not because they're afraid of Ofcom but because they are afraid of losing the work.... permanently.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:Do you genuinely believe that Ofcom is going to fine us if we say we're reducing the service to protect lives? The USO is meaningless at the moment.
Until the government or OFCOM give RM permission to reduce the services, the USO isn't meaningless. If anything I think they'll be more insistent on the USO being upheld, not all elderly people will have a phone, for some of them the post might be their only connection with the outside world.
You're obsessed by the power of Ofcom SP. They're a quasi-government department funded by the people they are charged with overseeing. In a national crisis they're about as powerful as a security guard on a building site.

Do you think there are USO police waiting to smash through the windows at RM HQ?

All they could do is fine us, do you think under the present circumstances that fine would stick? The government are ripping up the rule books on government social intervention and fiscal policy, they're throwing money at companies to keep them afloat and shutting others down while guaranteeing the wages of their staff.

Do you genuinely think in the middle of that s**t storm Ofcom are going to fine us without the government telling them to STFU.

Yes we will be delivering crucial things like government advice and NHS documentation but if the company decides to tell specsavers to do one until this crisis is over nobody would or could drag RM over the coals for it without looking ridiculous.

Now a different question is whether RM has the balls to do it, not because they're afraid of Ofcom but because they are afraid of losing the work.... permanently.
The post is going to be the only method of communication for some elderly people. Don't know if you've got any relatives that are over 70 but how would you feel if the post was the only communication they had and it was cut off? :cuppa Stop being so selfish.

If someone is self isolating then the post is the only way that they can get non-food stuff as the food deliveries from the supermarkets can't cope. You must want the elderly :cuppa and those at risk to suffer as without the post they'd have to go out and risk getting the virus :roll: