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12 weeks isolation, do you have to give notice

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If I decided to go into 12 weeks isolation and claim SSP as per the Governments directive would I have to give any sort of notice before hand or can I ring the Dom and do it there and then?
Speaking as someone in the vulnerable adult groups
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Would the governments help yesterday of paying 80% of wages not include you and similar circumstances ?
The union and rm would need to release a statement on this
It’s nice of them calling for us to be a forth emergency service and bringing stuff to people working from home
But what about people that this will almost certainly kill and anyone they are living with on the same condition
These people should be protected and allowed to self isolate with the worry of money on top of it all
I’d say isolate yourself and hope that you get your wages mostly ,this is too serious of a virus and too high a risk to be working in a building with 100s of others ,sharing a van or sorting frames,touching letterboxes and stuff of infected people
Stay safe no matter what ,you only have one go at this
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You get paid, see the stickies in this forum...

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=94753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

b) Self-isolation, testing and reporting
What is the latest government advice re self-isolation for employees?

The situation is constantly changing and you should check Public Health England guidance for the latest advice
on this area.

Our understanding of the current position is that employees could be isolating for between 7 and 14 days and
this could be extended by around a week if they develop symptoms during self-isolation.

All absences should be treated as sickness absence. Managers should choose “Coronavirus with Symptoms” if
the employee has symptoms and “Coronavirus Self Isolation” if they do not have symptoms. Please update the
absence if the reason for absence changes.
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I have just been told by doctors that all people in the vulnerable category should get a letter in post detailing what to do
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POSTMAN wrote:You get paid, see the stickies in this forum...

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=94753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

b) Self-isolation, testing and reporting
What is the latest government advice re self-isolation for employees?

The situation is constantly changing and you should check Public Health England guidance for the latest advice
on this area.

Our understanding of the current position is that employees could be isolating for between 7 and 14 days and
this could be extended by around a week if they develop symptoms during self-isolation.

All absences should be treated as sickness absence. Managers should choose “Coronavirus with Symptoms” if
the employee has symptoms and “Coronavirus Self Isolation” if they do not have symptoms. Please update the
absence if the reason for absence changes.
That doesnt mention the 12 week isolation for vulnerable groups though
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Acca Dacca wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:You get paid, see the stickies in this forum...

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=94753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

b) Self-isolation, testing and reporting
What is the latest government advice re self-isolation for employees?

The situation is constantly changing and you should check Public Health England guidance for the latest advice
on this area.

Our understanding of the current position is that employees could be isolating for between 7 and 14 days and
this could be extended by around a week if they develop symptoms during self-isolation.

All absences should be treated as sickness absence. Managers should choose “Coronavirus with Symptoms” if
the employee has symptoms and “Coronavirus Self Isolation” if they do not have symptoms. Please update the
absence if the reason for absence changes.
That doesnt mention the 12 week isolation for vulnerable groups though
It mentions...Self...Isolation, what more do you need.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

POSTMAN wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:You get paid, see the stickies in this forum...

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=94753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

b) Self-isolation, testing and reporting
What is the latest government advice re self-isolation for employees?

The situation is constantly changing and you should check Public Health England guidance for the latest advice
on this area.

Our understanding of the current position is that employees could be isolating for between 7 and 14 days and
this could be extended by around a week if they develop symptoms during self-isolation.

All absences should be treated as sickness absence. Managers should choose “Coronavirus with Symptoms” if
the employee has symptoms and “Coronavirus Self Isolation” if they do not have symptoms. Please update the
absence if the reason for absence changes.
That doesnt mention the 12 week isolation for vulnerable groups though
It mentions...Self...Isolation, what more do you need.
Confirmation of what the procedure is for those self isolating for longer than whats mentioned in that post perhaps

It says could be extended by around a week over the 14 days if develop symptoms

Says nothing about having no symptoms but choosing to self isolate as a precaution for 12 weeks
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Post by Williaal2 »

POSTMAN wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:You get paid, see the stickies in this forum...

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 71&t=94753" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

b) Self-isolation, testing and reporting
What is the latest government advice re self-isolation for employees?

The situation is constantly changing and you should check Public Health England guidance for the latest advice
on this area.

Our understanding of the current position is that employees could be isolating for between 7 and 14 days and
this could be extended by around a week if they develop symptoms during self-isolation.

All absences should be treated as sickness absence. Managers should choose “Coronavirus with Symptoms” if
the employee has symptoms and “Coronavirus Self Isolation” if they do not have symptoms. Please update the
absence if the reason for absence changes.
That doesnt mention the 12 week isolation for vulnerable groups though
It mentions...Self...Isolation, what more do you need.
A link dealing with Royal Mails policy in regard to vulnerable employees. The self isolation policy you just outlined is for those suspected of having the virus, or those living with them, not vulnerable people.
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Can you provide more clarity on who will be considered to be vulnerable from an underlying health condition perspective?

We understand that early next week the NHS will be sending a letter to individuals who they categorise as vulnerable due to an underlying condition. This will provide specific advice about what the individual should do and cover people who are at a particularly high risk of getting seriously ill with coronavirus. The medical conditions which we understand are covered include people who:
  • • have had an organ transplant and are taking immunosuppressant medicine • are having chemotherapy or radiotherapy • have blood or bone marrow cancer, such as leukaemia
    • have a severe chest condition, such as cystic fibrosis or severe asthma
    • have another serious health condition If an employee believes that they are vulnerable due to an underlying health condition then they should have a communication / certificate from their GP. To summarise this would we say those who usually get the annual flu jab for free – a good guide but NHS will be in touch.
No doubt Royal Mail will update as well.

I have an employee who has an underlying health condition in my team and they want to socially distance themselves following the latest Public Health England (PHE) advice. How should I respond?

The current PHE advice is that individuals who have an underlying health condition should limit their social contact where possible, including using less public transport, working at home where possible and considering not going to pubs, restaurants, theatres and bars. They are also being strongly advised to significantly limit face-to-face interaction with friends and family (social distancing) if possible.

The approach below will be in place until the end of March 2020, when it will be reviewed and may be extended or changed.
Version 15: Friday 20th March 2020

The employee should provide you a medical certificate to cover the absence. If they are not able to provide this immediately please give them time to provide this at a later date.

The employee can work from home following the advice and guidance on working from home.
If an employee is not able to work from home the absence will be treated as a sickness absence and you should choose Coronavirus self-isolation as the absence reason.

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https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 71&t=94715
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.