They have been 'strongly advised' not told. In order for RM to pay you then the government must issue a directive so they can claim your salary costs back whilst you are absent. Until that happens and you choose to stay home, it's unpaid.viking1488 wrote:people with underling medical conditions have been told to self isolate for 12 weeks not only for there own health its also to stop the nhs getting overwhelmed while they are fighting to keep hospitals etc open while they cope with the increasing cases of covid 19 across the countrytrivster wrote:Not even those with serious underlying health conditions can go home with pay - it's unpaid. There is no duty of care anymore. They know people can't afford to sit at home with no pay and you're left with the impossible choice of risking your health and your families for a wage. There's no duty of care to the NHS either who will be inundated with sick and dying people due to vulnerable people having to work when they have been strongly advised to isolate.
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trivster
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viking1488
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no but we have been told to social distance which people with underling medical conditions need to so there you have it catch 22 im looking forward to your reply Social distancing means avoiding unnecessary contact with other people and spending less time in public places, where a lot of people are around.trivster wrote:They have been 'strongly advised' not told. In order for RM to pay you then the government must issue a directive so they can claim your salary costs back whilst you are absent. Until that happens and you choose to stay home, it's unpaid.viking1488 wrote:people with underling medical conditions have been told to self isolate for 12 weeks not only for there own health its also to stop the nhs getting overwhelmed while they are fighting to keep hospitals etc open while they cope with the increasing cases of covid 19 across the countrytrivster wrote:Not even those with serious underlying health conditions can go home with pay - it's unpaid. There is no duty of care anymore. They know people can't afford to sit at home with no pay and you're left with the impossible choice of risking your health and your families for a wage. There's no duty of care to the NHS either who will be inundated with sick and dying people due to vulnerable people having to work when they have been strongly advised to isolate.
Everyone in the UK is now told to follow self-distancing measures, especially the over-70s, pregnant women and adults normally eligible for a flu jab.When social distancing you must work from home where possible and avoid all unnecessary travel and public gatherings.
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Woody Guthrie
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The NHS are advising people who are self-isolating as a household to stay away from each other because 'super dosing' seems to have an affect on how bad you get it. Sleeping together seems to be particularly bad news.But, the dose you are exposed to plays a part too, many doctors and nurses are dying, people you wouldn't expect to die. And they believe it's because they're being exposed to much higher dosages of the virus.
There's a lot of guesswork involved still and I don't want to add to the bullshit flying around the Internet but this seems to be a position the NHS are supporting and unlike half the bollocks out there it does make sense to stay away from other ill people if you're ill.
Only dead fish follow the current
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sicknote25
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We had a briefing today and we asked about the Social Distancing etc when we are on IPS, on our frames (base and 6 so working almost ontop of each other) and in our vans. We were told that Social Distancing doesn't apply within the work place????, we asked to use an extra IPS frame so we could space ourselves out and got told no as there was insufficient mail.
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therailway61
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Did we not all receive a voucher for a free flu jab before xmas?
Must all be in the high risk group then?
Must all be in the high risk group then?
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jwd1879
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Where is the union? They were all over the place asking for industrial action votes but silent with the Coronovirus crisis.
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sicknote25
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Unit Rep was stood there but didnt say a wordjwd1879 wrote:Where is the union? They were all over the place asking for industrial action votes but silent with the Coronovirus crisis.
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viking1488
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what Social Distancing doesn't apply within the work place i cant believe who ever said this can sleep at night anything at all to pretend government guidelines and this virus are not happening total disregard for your health at work its a disgrace and all this crap is coming from further up the chainsicknote25 wrote:We had a briefing today and we asked about the Social Distancing etc when we are on IPS, on our frames (base and 6 so working almost ontop of each other) and in our vans. We were told that Social Distancing doesn't apply within the work place????, we asked to use an extra IPS frame so we could space ourselves out and got told no as there was insufficient mail.
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Would a request for taking unpaid leave even be granted now? Not being funny but since a very small amount of people so far in our office have gone sick CV19 related, those left remaining are being slogged even harder and are clearing other walks and packets instead of their own. Lots are being constantly asked to work overtime and their days off? So would RM even allow you to take unpaid leave? I dread to think what the place will be like when the volumes of sickness increase.scotboyblue wrote:I’m seriously thinking of taking unpaid leave if I can financially work things out. If we were supplied with gloves masks and clean vehicles etc I would stick it out. But reckon nobody cares.
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viking1488
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i asked that question my rep went silent and walked back to where he spends most of the morning with his pals in the managers officejwd1879 wrote:Where is the union? They were all over the place asking for industrial action votes but silent with the Coronovirus crisis.
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exetererica
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They're too busy delivering toilet rolls and groceries to the elderly rural population, I'd imagine.exetererica wrote:
They should be all over this and trying to win back support of disillusioned members.
Their silence is deafening.
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sicknote25
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Weve been told today that if walks are failing then no overtime will be offered to clear loops or part walks as it doesn't make financial sense.... after all it is a business. When questioned the reply was we could end up just delivering parcels and NHS letters. We asked about the service to the customer and again response was we are also a business.1560loopsayear wrote:Would a request for taking unpaid leave even be granted now? Not being funny but since a very small amount of people so far in our office have gone sick CV19 related, those left remaining are being slogged even harder and are clearing other walks and packets instead of their own. Lots are being constantly asked to work overtime and their days off? So would RM even allow you to take unpaid leave? I dread to think what the place will be like when the volumes of sickness increase.scotboyblue wrote:I’m seriously thinking of taking unpaid leave if I can financially work things out. If we were supplied with gloves masks and clean vehicles etc I would stick it out. But reckon nobody cares.
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Grumpyoldmailman
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That’s why the USO will be suspended and we will more than likely go down to less than 6 days in my opinion, will we ever go back upto 6 days again is another question.1560loopsayear wrote:I dread to think what the place will be like when the volumes of sickness increase.