State of work is scary and so far from guidelines

spen · Post by **spen** » 20 Mar 2020, 21:54

If people really feel so strongly about wearing gloves and mask and using sanitizer but the company isnt supplying them,,,then if you feel it really is something that might save your life,,, why not buy some yourself and take some personal responsibility for your own well being,,,

Zicomurphy · Post by **Zicomurphy** » 20 Mar 2020, 21:55

scotboyblue wrote: I’ve got a wife in a vulnerable position at home and kid with asthma.

That’s the issue for a lot of us. It’s not the fear of the impact it will have on ourselves if we get it, it’s the fear of getting it and passing it on to loved ones who may be more vulnerable than us.

hero22 · Post by **hero22** » 20 Mar 2020, 22:01

spen wrote:If people really feel so strongly about wearing gloves and mask and using sanitizer but the company isnt supplying them,,,then if you feel it really is something that might save your life,,, why not buy some yourself and take some personal responsibility for your own well being,,,

Didn't think of that.... but then again there is feck all left in the shops

slipknoted · Post by **slipknoted** » 20 Mar 2020, 23:27

Wearing masks isn't just to protect yourself. You can be carrying the virus and be asymptomatic (that means showing no signs of illness). Going from door to door spreading it to a wide range of vunerable people in the community. Just cos you can survive it doesn't mean your nan can.

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 20 Mar 2020, 23:35

slipknoted wrote:Wearing masks isn't just to protect yourself. You can be carrying the virus and be asymptomatic (that means showing no signs of illness). Going from door to door spreading it to a wide range of vunerable people in the community. Just cos you can survive it doesn't mean your nan can.

That's why the emphasis is on social distancing. A mask is only a real benefit if you're continuously coughing and releasing aerosol droplets within your vicinity. And if you're doing that, you should be in self isolation.

Post by **wowiezowie** » 21 Mar 2020, 01:16

Just wanted to echo what everyone else has said. My mail centre is a disgrace. No social distancing at all, everyone working too closely together. A guy was sent home yesterday with the symptoms, we now have confirmation from his family he has Coronavirus. No one who was working with him has been spoken to or warned. Our manager tonight was standing there biting his nails then pushing Yorks around without washing his hands. Other managers standing around laughing with each other like it's a big f***ing joke. They will all have blood on their hands if we have a huge outbreak and someone is seriously ill, a lot of of staff are in their late 60's. I'm ashamed to work for this company, the lack of professionalism is shocking

miles_peters · Post by **miles_peters** » 21 Mar 2020, 04:03

Royal Mail delivery offices must now be some of the most dangerous places to work in the country.

ZERO health and safety methods put in place since the outbreak for indoor work

We will all turn up for work today and nothing would/will have changed

Getting the work out is more important than the lives of the workforce

Subman · Post by **Subman** » 21 Mar 2020, 06:42

Of course we have a personal responsibility for our safety and well being but as far as I can see it is the postal staff who are using their own gels,wipes and gloves etc.

Our office has had no wipes , gels or gloves supplied at all.
We have had no changes to working practices inside our office.

While I understand resources should be prioritised to those most in need the response from RM is verging on negligence.
There is no excuse for RM not to be investing in additional cleaning of offices, work practices inside the office should be changed to allow for distancing, managers should be ensuring that staff have the resources to clean there vans, frequency of van cleans should be increased and managers should actively ensure this happens, cleaning equipment should be provided and used frequently on door handles etc.

Wheres Rico,? sitting in an office a safe distance from his colleagues, with hand dispenser inside and outside the door to his office, an office which is cleaned professionally daily.
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Post by **HTPostman** » 21 Mar 2020, 06:53

You just couldn’t make it up could you. Saw a guy come out of the bogs at work yesterday, didn’t wash his hands. Half eaten sandwiches still left in vans. People moaning because they’ve heard 3 new houses are to be built on their round in 2022. I really hope in the months ahead all I have to moan about is a couple of extra calls.

No one is understanding the seriousness of it all. Since I started reading this forum half an hour ago another 300 people have been affected (276518 at 6.50am), and that’s with only a small percentage of those with symptoms being tested. Experts estimate anywhere between 1 and 10% are being tested. Let’s give the benefit of the doubt and go with the higher number, that’s 2.76 million worldwide and most countries aren’t even in their peak period (ignore China, there’s no way they are over it, more dishonesty and lies from them).

Grumpyoldmailman · Post by **Grumpyoldmailman** » 21 Mar 2020, 07:04

I don’t think many are bothered about it at ours, lots they were still in an hour early this morning.

1617mel · Post by **1617mel** » 21 Mar 2020, 07:35

yes you have all got a story to tell about our great work not applying to the gov. NHS guidelines , in fact the royal mail workers are the most likely spreaders or receivers of the covid-19
than any other element in the UK, as we deliver daily to every private address and business address nationally.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 21 Mar 2020, 07:40

1617mel wrote:yes you have all got a story to tell about our great work not applying to the gov. NHS guidelines , in fact the royal mail workers are the most likely spreaders or receivers of the covid-19
than any other element in the UK, as we deliver daily to every private address and business address nationally.

It's a greater risk in MCs as you've typically got more people in the same room than most DOs

viking1488 · Post by **viking1488** » 21 Mar 2020, 09:49

wowiezowie wrote:Just wanted to echo what everyone else has said. My mail centre is a disgrace. No social distancing at all, everyone working too closely together. A guy was sent home yesterday with the symptoms, we now have confirmation from his family he has Coronavirus. No one who was working with him has been spoken to or warned. Our manager tonight was standing there biting his nails then pushing Yorks around without washing his hands. Other managers standing around laughing with each other like it's a big f***ing joke. They will all have blood on their hands if we have a huge outbreak and someone is seriously ill, a lot of of staff are in their late 60's. I'm ashamed to work for this company, the lack of professionalism is shocking

trivster · Post by **trivster** » 21 Mar 2020, 09:50

Not even those with serious underlying health conditions can go home with pay - it's unpaid. There is no duty of care anymore. They know people can't afford to sit at home with no pay and you're left with the impossible choice of risking your health and your families for a wage. There's no duty of care to the NHS either who will be inundated with sick and dying people due to vulnerable people having to work when they have been strongly advised to isolate.

viking1488 · Post by **viking1488** » 21 Mar 2020, 10:02

trivster wrote:Not even those with serious underlying health conditions can go home with pay - it's unpaid. There is no duty of care anymore. They know people can't afford to sit at home with no pay and you're left with the impossible choice of risking your health and your families for a wage. There's no duty of care to the NHS either who will be inundated with sick and dying people due to vulnerable people having to work when they have been strongly advised to isolate.

people with underling medical conditions have been told to self isolate for 12 weeks not only for there own health its also to stop the nhs getting overwhelmed while they are fighting to keep hospitals etc open while they cope with the increasing cases of covid 19 across the country