Dispute Update : Today Royal Mail have announced executive action in 15 different offices across the UK.

Newbie001 · Post by **Newbie001** » 04 Feb 2020, 14:49

"Executive action", is this one of the new buzz phrases like "business needs" and "mails down". Means they can do anything they want.
What else is new, been doing it for years.

Newbie001 · Post by **Newbie001** » 04 Feb 2020, 15:21

clashcityrocker wrote:
Bosley wrote: start on time take your breaks and work to rule; its not rocket science
That is great advice but what does it mean for the people who are doing that but still finishing 60/90/120 minutes early?

A few in our office always finish early, not because duty piss easy. But because of "indoor lapsing".
Job and finish is still rife in many offices.
They run around like mad, doorstep, sign for items. People getting sacked if they get caught, even though its actively encouraged by management. They just wont learn.
And trollies lol. Would love to see figures on how many are actually used. Considering many offices only own 1 or 2
Is it any wonder RM think all these hours can be saved with clocking machines. If people ever finally wake up, bullying is gonna go through the roof.

Post by **General Mannerheim** » 04 Feb 2020, 17:47

ted_e_bear wrote:Out of interest has anyone got details of the 15 offices and what each example of the action is, presume it's not the same in every location ?

Bolton , CSS machines going, firms going onto delivery

, later firm collections rounds being made part time

and 1in 3's Saturday's going back to 1 in 6.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 04 Feb 2020, 19:36

General Mannerheim wrote:firms going onto delivery

Dedicated firms walk having the outdoor content split between different walks?

Deadly · Post by **Deadly** » 04 Feb 2020, 21:24

SpacePhoenix wrote:
General Mannerheim wrote:firms going onto delivery
Dedicated firms walk having the outdoor content split between different walks?

Firms collections maybe?

Post by **Sugar** » 05 Feb 2020, 10:54

Newbie001 wrote: A few in our office always finish early, not because duty piss easy. But because of "indoor lapsing".
Job and finish is still rife in many offices.
They run around like mad, doorstep, sign for items. People getting sacked if they get caught, even though its actively encouraged by management. They just wont learn.
And trollies lol. Would love to see figures on how many are actually used. Considering many offices only own 1 or 2
Is it any wonder RM think all these hours can be saved with clocking machines. If people ever finally wake up, bullying is gonna go through the roof.

Exactly

The workers have done the vast majority of the damage that's coming themselves and they still don't learn.

cpsteve · Post by **cpsteve** » 05 Feb 2020, 11:02

clashcityrocker wrote:
Bosley wrote: start on time take your breaks and work to rule; its not rocket science
That is great advice but what does it mean for the people who are doing that but still finishing 60/90/120 minutes early?

More work and nothing wrong with that.

Zicomurphy · Post by **Zicomurphy** » 05 Feb 2020, 16:09

cpsteve wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
Bosley wrote: start on time take your breaks and work to rule; its not rocket science
That is great advice but what does it mean for the people who are doing that but still finishing 60/90/120 minutes early?
More work and nothing wrong with that.

If there is work for them to do on that day.

Could mean loss of pay or having to pay the time back at a time that suits Royal Mail with no advanced warning and they won’t care about any commitments you have outside work. Plenty wrong with that.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 05 Feb 2020, 19:41

cpsteve wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
Bosley wrote: start on time take your breaks and work to rule; its not rocket science
That is great advice but what does it mean for the people who are doing that but still finishing 60/90/120 minutes early?
More work and nothing wrong with that.

If you have a finite amount of work (or even diminishing) and some people do more work simple maths means that's fewer jobs or less hours for part--time staff, while it might be inevitable it's not something I'm prepared to celebrate.

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 05 Feb 2020, 20:49

clashcityrocker wrote:
Bosley wrote: start on time take your breaks and work to rule; its not rocket science
That is great advice but what does it mean for the people who are doing that but still finishing 60/90/120 minutes early?

They will be taking my lapse. At the moment they are getting paid extra for it but in future that might not be the case. They may arrive back at the depot and be told that they are not allowed to leave until all the mail's gone out. If they prefer to sit and wait I'm sure management may then find them some indoor work to do instead like prepping a few D2Ds for someone or move some Yorke's outside.