MRM.COM : Update on CWU talks : An update in 60 seconds from delivery director Ricky McAulay

[yellowbelly]

Even in deliveries, go to alternate day delivering and you could axe maybe 40% of jobs.

Do DHL/TNT/UPS/HERMES go on alternative day deliveries? Imagine the amount of business the company would loose if they said, 'sorry mr, we cant deliver your parcel/letter for 48hrs cause it aint worth our time'.

For parcels maybe - for letters though a lot of people they wouldn't care if they didn't get a letter delivery on a particular day (which
day though is a opening a whole new can of worms) - just yesterday I was told by one old dear who lives in the single old farm cottage
at the end of a mile long lane - 'Oh I wasn't expecting you today' and when she saw the single piece of mail/catalogue or whatever it was she
chucked it straight in the recycling bin......

[Celgar]

Having a Scottish person running something used to be a sign that a very good job would be made. Can't remember the last time this was the case. I don't have patience to listen to any more greywash & half-truths from this guy so I won't waste my time watching his latest video.
I don't think we will switch to an every other day operation in the near future not least because the amount of mail we deal with has not declined enough. Imagine having to deliver two days worth of mail each day on a regular basis ??? It wouldn't actually be possible at the moment. Letter volumes are declining but that cannot be managed on a one shoe fits everyone basis.
More likely we will switch to a five day operation although even this might not be allowed or decided upon. The new parcel strategy is the only definite threat at the moment and it is a significant one.

[hans solo]

lets focus on the decline of letters situation
sdd came into effect years ago when we gave up 2nd deliveries
with the claim from mgmt it didnt matter if we took 8 letters to a door it takes the same time as delivering 1
so we are now in the reverse position
it doesnt matter how many letters we carry its how many points we deliver to
and their is no way they have halved in fact more delivery points added every year
blows their myth about decline
and isnt d2d counted as they were built into workload to accommodate workload
is our cwu not clever enough to fight them on these points

[SpacePhoenix]

lets focus on the decline of letters situation
sdd came into effect years ago when we gave up 2nd deliveries
with the claim from mgmt it didnt matter if we took 8 letters to a door it takes the same time as delivering 1
so we are now in the reverse position
it doesnt matter how many letters we carry its how many points we deliver to
and their is no way they have halved in fact more delivery points added every year
blows their myth about decline
and isnt d2d counted as they were built into workload to accommodate workload
is our cwu not clever enough to fight them on these points

Letters are in decline, it's easy to see from the number of boxes that we put through sequencing outside of Xmas pressure. The only time that batches get changed is when a batch hits the limit for delivery points and it's very rare for that to happen.

[rogersh]

Even in deliveries, go to alternate day delivering and you could axe maybe 40% of jobs.

I assume any alteration to the USO (review currently in progress by OFCOM) would need to observe the Postal Services Act 2011.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/201 ... al-service" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UK Public General Acts 2011 c. 5 Part 3 The universal postal service

34
Review of minimum requirements
(1)OFCOM may from time to time review the extent to which the provision made by section 31 reflects the reasonable needs of the users of postal services provided in the United Kingdom.

(2)A review under subsection (1) may, in particular, consider whether the requirements imposed by that section could be altered so as better to reflect those needs.

(3)OFCOM must send a copy of each review under subsection (1) to the Secretary of State.

(4)The Secretary of State may at any time direct OFCOM to carry out a review under subsection (1).

(5)Where OFCOM have carried out a review under subsection (1), the Secretary of State may by order amend section 31.

(6)The provision that may be made by an order under subsection (5) does not include the making of different provision in relation to different places in the United Kingdom.

(7)An order under subsection (5)—
(a)is subject to affirmative resolution procedure, and
(b)may include such amendments of this Part as the Secretary of State considers necessary or expedient in consequence of any provision made by the order.

[postslippete]

Great. Wheres the update in 60 seconds from the CWU's Terry Pullinger?? How about....We agreed a watered down pension deal because Royal Mail said the current one was unaffordable. We also had an agreement for a SWW that Royal Mail pulled out of and said is unaffordable. Mail volumes may have declined but posties are actually performing more work in terms of office revisions that have led to much bigger duties with additional year round lapsing thrown on top for good measure. I would expect that we also personally deliver well over 50% more parcels than what we did in 2004 as well.

[hans solo]

lets focus on the decline of letters situation
sdd came into effect years ago when we gave up 2nd deliveries
with the claim from mgmt it didnt matter if we took 8 letters to a door it takes the same time as delivering 1
so we are now in the reverse position
it doesnt matter how many letters we carry its how many points we deliver to
and their is no way they have halved in fact more delivery points added every year
blows their myth about decline
and isnt d2d counted as they were built into workload to accommodate workload
is our cwu not clever enough to fight them on these points

Letters are in decline, it's easy to see from the number of boxes that we put through sequencing outside of Xmas pressure. The only time that batches get changed is when a batch hits the limit for delivery points and it's very rare for that to happen.

our mail centres only do mon tues sequencing for us rest gets done in delivery office for now (glasgow) so mail centres dont see the full picture

[hans solo]

and yes the mail count is down but not the walk A-C YOU STILL WALK BY B rm dont accept that but they have no answer when working to time and leave loops

[SpacePhoenix]

our mail centres only do mon tues sequencing for us rest gets done in delivery office for now (glasgow) so mail centres dont see the full picture

Something weird going on there, they should be sequencing every day. is your office an MPU? If your office is an MPU I wonder if the DOM has requested for your office to sequence it's own mail on the other days.

In any case the MC managers can look up for figures on Automis so they've still got the full picture

[redneck]

Like the way he says letters have dropped 50% since 2004 but only says the parcel market is competitive.Why can’t he state the percentage parcels have grown by since 2004 then .

Exactly that. If you do the job properly with parcels on the duties, it actually take MORE time now!

[wacko74]

Letters are in decline, it's easy to see from the number of boxes that we put through sequencing outside of Xmas pressure. The only time that batches get changed is when a batch hits the limit for delivery points and it's very rare for that to happen.

Letters might well be in decline but that doesn't make the delivery job any quicker or easier, it still takes just as long to walk up a driveway and deliver one letter as it did to deliver 3 or 4 to that address.