How much in tips did you get this xmas?

norris9 · Post by **norris9** » 27 Dec 2019, 18:15

I just don't see the benefit of running around to finish early when it isn't job and finish. ok - yes some days u will get to go home early with no extra work, but it's never guaranteed and most the time if a postie finishes early they will just sit about in their vans.....not much reward for running around every day.

Post by **fb1969** » 27 Dec 2019, 19:23

Some posties just seem to "get off" on running round and cutting up a round to make others look slow. Small minded and self-interested, they are usually the DOM's favourite and/or have mates in the right places. RM as a company will always win as people like that would rather look big (to themself anyway) than help or stand up for others.

Post by **Navalron** » 28 Dec 2019, 10:49

Dorset Plodder wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote: By rights the DOM should be giving them an additional hours worth of work.

The runners give higher up scope to take hours out of a DO
Its Obvious you don't work in a Delivery Office SP (as your profile states). This kind of Shite has been going on for years, and most DOMs don't bother dealing with it. From an RM point of view they love it if Posties are coming in early and working for FREE, that's if they're Not paying ANY Overtime (and TBH if you come in one hour early, and finish one hour early no harms done) It's when they're coming in one hour early , finishing on time ... and then the DOMs not paying them any OT, because, "Well you finished at your correct time" that's when it doesn't make sense.

There's Various explanations given by Posties: I like to get out Early and avoid the Rush Hour ... I've got to get home early to walk the dog.. pick the kids up... Get to my second job etc .... All no doubt valid ... BUT Please don't work for nothing You are Correct SP the DOM "should" be giving them extra work to take them up to their contracted finish time, but IMO they just be bothered with the hassle. I spoke to the DOM about someone who is a Habitual Early Finisher and asked WHY he didn't give him more work? He said, "He's just a Fast Worker and if I give him more work ... when he leaves it will be an Oversized Duty that won't be able to be done in time" FFS I said, "Then why don't you just give him enough work to take it up to his Finish Time ... AND then "when" he leaves take some work off again"? He looked at me as if I was stupid .... Perhaps I am?

And why is another postie talking to management about giving a fellow workmate more mail to deliver. WTF has it got to do with you.

buntin · Post by **buntin** » 28 Dec 2019, 13:02

8 people got over 10 grand ??? really.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 28 Dec 2019, 13:03

buntin wrote:8 people got over 10 grand ??? really.

I find that hard to believe as well. The taxman will certainly be after them if it's true

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Dec 2019, 15:03

SpacePhoenix wrote:
buntin wrote:8 people got over 10 grand ??? really.
I find that hard to believe as well. The taxman will certainly be after them if it's true

To be honest, now I am an MC worker, it's probably some upset night workers who thought the thread was a tad insensitive.

norris9 · Post by **norris9** » 28 Dec 2019, 16:01

buntin wrote:8 people got over 10 grand ??? really.

You never know. These ones who go and buy milk and bread for their older customers may be getting massive reward for it come xmas. I am sure there are a lot of old folk out there with no family and the postman is the person they see most from day to day. Wouldn't surprise me if some people have put the postman in their wills.

worthings · Post by **worthings** » 28 Dec 2019, 20:27

Had one guy come out with a five pound note but his wife came out and said thats not our normal postie and went back inside gutted

Post by **rambo1** » 28 Dec 2019, 21:43

Dorset Plodder wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote: By rights the DOM should be giving them an additional hours worth of work.

The runners give higher up scope to take hours out of a DO
Its Obvious you don't work in a Delivery Office SP (as your profile states). This kind of Shite has been going on for years, and most DOMs don't bother dealing with it. From an RM point of view they love it if Posties are coming in early and working for FREE, that's if they're Not paying ANY Overtime (and TBH if you come in one hour early, and finish one hour early no harms done) It's when they're coming in one hour early , finishing on time ... and then the DOMs not paying them any OT, because, "Well you finished at your correct time" that's when it doesn't make sense.

There's Various explanations given by Posties: I like to get out Early and avoid the Rush Hour ... I've got to get home early to walk the dog.. pick the kids up... Get to my second job etc .... All no doubt valid ... BUT Please don't work for nothing You are Correct SP the DOM "should" be giving them extra work to take them up to their contracted finish time, but IMO they just be bothered with the hassle. I spoke to the DOM about someone who is a Habitual Early Finisher and asked WHY he didn't give him more work? He said, "He's just a Fast Worker and if I give him more work ... when he leaves it will be an Oversized Duty that won't be able to be done in time" FFS I said, "Then why don't you just give him enough work to take it up to his Finish Time ... AND then "when" he leaves take some work off again"? He looked at me as if I was stupid .... Perhaps I am?

Can't understand coming in early and working for free. If you came in an hr early at our place (and some do), you wouldn't be out an hr earlier because there's not enough mail and packets sorted up. If sorting is all done before half eight they're doing well. There'd be no point coming in at six. Total waste of time, but not for the managers who will just get you doing other prep ......in your free time! And yet some numptys still do it in the hope one day they can be out early and get a flyer.

Post by **rambo1** » 28 Dec 2019, 21:47

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
buntin wrote:8 people got over 10 grand ??? really.
I find that hard to believe as well. The taxman will certainly be after them if it's true
To be honest, now I am an MC worker, it's probably some upset night workers who thought the thread was a tad insensitive.

What, mail centre workers who don't do door to doors but get the delivery supplement that replaced d2d payments? 52 weeks a yr. Not just at Xmas.

Post by **rambo1** » 28 Dec 2019, 21:49

norris9 wrote:I just don't see the benefit of running around to finish early when it isn't job and finish. ok - yes some days u will get to go home early with no extra work, but it's never guaranteed and most the time if a postie finishes early they will just sit about in their vans.....not much reward for running around every day.

'sit about in their vans' AKA talking their breaks?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Dec 2019, 21:51

rambo1 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
buntin wrote:8 people got over 10 grand ??? really.
I find that hard to believe as well. The taxman will certainly be after them if it's true
To be honest, now I am an MC worker, it's probably some upset night workers who thought the thread was a tad insensitive.
What, mail centre workers who don't do door to doors but get the delivery supplement that replaced d2d payments? 52 weeks a yr. Not just at Xmas.

But they don't get a delivery supplement = they get an MC supplement which started at £8 max when Delivery was £22

norris9 · Post by **norris9** » 28 Dec 2019, 21:57

rambo1 wrote:
norris9 wrote:I just don't see the benefit of running around to finish early when it isn't job and finish. ok - yes some days u will get to go home early with no extra work, but it's never guaranteed and most the time if a postie finishes early they will just sit about in their vans.....not much reward for running around every day.
'sit about in their vans' AKA talking their breaks?

no. lol.

Post by **wacko74** » 29 Dec 2019, 04:56

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
buntin wrote:8 people got over 10 grand ??? really.
I find that hard to believe as well. The taxman will certainly be after them if it's true
To be honest, now I am an MC worker, it's probably some upset night workers who thought the thread was a tad insensitive.

I suppose they can console themselves with the thought of their 1970's working conditions, 3 men doing the work of one etc...

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 29 Dec 2019, 12:50

Isn't there a rule you're meant to declare a tip above a certain amount as a potential bribe?

I think attitudes have changed to be honest, most people now just think get on with your job rather than tipping anybody. Even how we work is different, we're mostly paired so which one do you tip? The one doing the oversized or the walker? The ones who get the most tips in our office are the rurals, and that's mostly because they've been doing that job for many years so everybody knows who they are. One guy has been doing the same route for 30 years in our office and he lives there so he knows them socially too.