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Meeting for Postal Workers Against the Deal
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goinpostal
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Meeting for Postal Workers Against the Deal
Meeting for Postal Workers Against the Deal
After the ballot closes: A meeting for all postal workers opposed to the pay and modernisation deal.
Sunday, 2nd December, 2.30-5p.m.
Upstairs room, Lucas Arms pub
245a, Grays Inn Road, London WC1X 8QZ
[The Lucas Arms is 5 minutes walk from Kings Cross station, a map can be found at: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x ... 6&z=0&ar=Y]
Proposed Agenda:
1) The “noâ€
After the ballot closes: A meeting for all postal workers opposed to the pay and modernisation deal.
Sunday, 2nd December, 2.30-5p.m.
Upstairs room, Lucas Arms pub
245a, Grays Inn Road, London WC1X 8QZ
[The Lucas Arms is 5 minutes walk from Kings Cross station, a map can be found at: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x ... 6&z=0&ar=Y]
Proposed Agenda:
1) The “noâ€
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IWW Fellow Worker
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dw77
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IWW Fellow Worker
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If it's a yes vote, you go for it mate, and enjoy yourself.dw77 wrote:But if its a yes vote, this wont be needed, since we'll all get behind the deal once the members have had their democratic say
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
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ajohnstone
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And if it is a NO vote ??
When the No vote is returned , as i hope it will , just where does it leave Ward and Hayes .Those two are already on record confessing that they are unable to negotiate a better deal than the one they are recommending , so just who will be sent back to conduct talks .
Surely a No vote must be treated as a vote of no confidence in Hayes and Ward and resignations to be accepted .
Needless to say , Management will immediately challenge the no vote , counting up the yeses and including abstentions and the non-union member staff to claim a majority and impose the deal by executive action .
What can Hayes and Ward do as supporters of the deal , after all ?
Branch demands for special conference takes time especially when hindered by the incumbents and no doubt be after the xmas pressure .
Then another ballot , i'm guessing since the original ballot has a time limit to remain valid , will be required for more industrial action .
So when management start imposing what they are describing as flexability , unofficial action is bound to break out .
The priority is that no mail diversions will be handled ...and that the unofficial strikes are spread . And those scab sorting offices staffed by casuals and agencies , which undoubtably will be put into action once again , are mass picketed .
Surely a No vote must be treated as a vote of no confidence in Hayes and Ward and resignations to be accepted .
Needless to say , Management will immediately challenge the no vote , counting up the yeses and including abstentions and the non-union member staff to claim a majority and impose the deal by executive action .
What can Hayes and Ward do as supporters of the deal , after all ?
Branch demands for special conference takes time especially when hindered by the incumbents and no doubt be after the xmas pressure .
Then another ballot , i'm guessing since the original ballot has a time limit to remain valid , will be required for more industrial action .
So when management start imposing what they are describing as flexability , unofficial action is bound to break out .
The priority is that no mail diversions will be handled ...and that the unofficial strikes are spread . And those scab sorting offices staffed by casuals and agencies , which undoubtably will be put into action once again , are mass picketed .
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TrueBlueTerrier
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If its a yes vote I would agree with you for this particular deal. But why cant a campaign designed to draw a line under this offer and try to do a better job and represent some members views more that the PEC and Senior Offices of the Union have done this year.dw77 wrote:But if its a yes vote, this wont be needed, since we'll all get behind the deal once the members have had their democratic say
Good luck I say.
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banner
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Can't see a swing of that amount from 78% for what is essentially the same deal as before.postmangnu wrote:It IS a yes vote by more than 60%:40%
There will be a swing of between 15-30%, which as everybody already knows, means this will be a very close ballot.
Either way, fun and games are on the horizon for all
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dvbuk55
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I know what you are saying BUT there is going to be a lot of pressure put on by RM and because the Yes vote prevailed then Summer efficiency and covering for holidays etc will become the norm - more especially because the second part of the pay rise of 1.5% miniscule as it is depends on acceptance AND implementation.jafferpants wrote:Getting behind the deal must mean doing what has been agreed.So you guys can come down to my office and cover the walks of those on leave etc- for nothing cause i can assure you no other f****r in our office will.
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