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Post by PostfromNotts »

Plain daft - but I respect your opinion!!
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
You are obviously entitled to your opinion but I would rather you voted Yes because you think the deal is acceptable. A vote yes to avoid further IA is not a strong reason. Also I am for voting NO and I don't believe we will strike before Christmas, in fact I think New Year is most likely.


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Post by rolf »

Some of the boys in my office are also of the same opinion as me it's ok for all the single people who stay with parents.
I know I am short sighted but it is my choice, correct or not. Each to your own.

Sorry boys I have never even been a scab. :oops:
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Post by smokerjim »

rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
Why not join here to help prepare for what will happen if, God forbid, RM get the "YES" vote they want.

Apologies for posting a link to another site, but I think it might be relevant to my comments.
I don't suppose your mouth bleeds every 28 days, does it?

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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
Of course, everyone else CAN afford to strike at Christmas. We're all rolling in cash. None of us have kids or mortgages or bills to pay. We all think a fifty hour week next Christmas is a fine idea, and as for covering sick absence or annual leave for no extra pay: it's great, and we're all really looking forward to doing it.
By the way Rolf, if you tolerate this, then your children will be next, and when they're working for a slave driving sweater who is determined to get the most work from them for the least amount of pay, you'll be able to tell them exactly who is to blame, and it won't be those of us with the bottle to fight for better conditions now.
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Post by smokerjim »

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
Of course, everyone else CAN afford to strike at Christmas. We're all rolling in cash. None of us have kids or mortgages or bills to pay. We all think a fifty hour week next Christmas is a fine idea, and as for covering sick absence or annual leave for no extra pay: it's great, and we're all really looking forward to doing it.
By the way Rolf, if you tolerate this, then your children will be next, and when they're working for a slave driving sweater who is determined to get the most work from them for the least amount of pay, you'll be able to tell them exactly who is to blame, and it won't be those of us with the bottle to fight for better conditions now.
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A damn sight more eloquent and pertinant than my response :oops:
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Post by jemima »

I don't think there would be any strike before Christmas. I like Christmas - and I wouldn't want to spoil it for anyone. Nor would most people I know. And of course everyone, including Union officials, will want a day or two off work to spend with their families at Christmas. Industrial action takes a lot of organising, and if started before Christmas it might run into the holiday and beyond. Better to start in the New Year when the timescale can be open-ended. So you're safe to vote no if the idea of strikes before Christmas is all that worries you.
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Trench Warfare

Post by norbet colon »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
You are obviously entitled to your opinion but I would rather you voted Yes because you think the deal is acceptable. A vote yes to avoid further IA is not a strong reason. Also I am for voting NO and I don't believe we will strike before Christmas, in fact I think New Year is most likely.


[center]Vote No - Not enough protection against RM pressure in the deal.[/center]
all you'll get is pressure and trench warfare . In one previously nationalized industry we'd two years of trench warfare . Eventually some of the companies decided to actually work with the three main unions .
One Union capatalized on it , people just went to better companies . The Tory idea failed .
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Post by BELIAL »

rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
I'll tell them Ralf, an I'll tell them Santa works for TNT an if they don't want him to lose their pressies they'll have to pay more. And you can blame me so you're off the hook
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Post by k979aaa »

jemima wrote:I don't think there would be any strike before Christmas. I like Christmas - and I wouldn't want to spoil it for anyone. Nor would most people I know. And of course everyone, including Union officials, will want a day or two off work to spend with their families at Christmas. Industrial action takes a lot of organising, and if started before Christmas it might run into the holiday and beyond. Better to start in the New Year when the timescale can be open-ended. So you're safe to vote no if the idea of strikes before Christmas is all that worries you.
I myself can only see that their should be a strike before christmas, For i am sure you are a nice postwoman with goodness at heart. But this is a war to the end we did not after D DAY say sod it for the rest of 1944 because christmas is comeing up let's go home lot's have suffered and continue to do so at least no one to my knowledge has died in this campaign and let's hope it shall remain so!. FOR CHRISTMAS COME'S BUT ONCE A YEAR ONE HARD CHRISTMAS FOR MANY BETTER ONE'S THAT IS HOW IT WAS LOOKED ON IN 1944 AND HAS COME TO PASS SINCE!.
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Post by stephen500 »

BELIAL wrote:More info. on a large DO in the soft south today circa. 200 staff word is NO- 100% yes-not one . Nothing marginal there
Much as i would love to believe it, I would also have to believe that no one voted for the way forward either!
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Post by stephen500 »

rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
You wouldn't be striking at Christmas. The old ballot for industrial action is now void and a new ballot for action would be needed. The earliest action would probally be after Christmas.
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Post by mdlmrk »

99% of members in worthing delivery office are voting no too..No amount of begging from our peanut head of a dom will change there minds...
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Post by k979aaa »

rolf wrote:I for one voted yes as I can't afford to strike at christmas, who is going to tell my kids that santa isn't coming, then who do I blame.

:left: VOTE YES
THESE TWO :cfo & :lfo JUST BECAUSE THEY GIVE OUT FREE STAMP'S WE HAVE EARNED DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN ABSOLVE THEMSELF'S OF RIPPING YOUR KID'S OR ANYONE ELSE'S CHRISTMAS OR HARD EARNED CASH IE D/2/DOOR PENSION /AND MORE/ PS MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU. :Very Happy
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Post by mdlmrk »

Luckily i got my ballot paper before i left..I had a quick show of hands from the boys at work as to where i should put my X .Funny how they all asked me to put it in the no box.. :dance