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Post by picture123 »

greengiant wrote:
mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:Another person who wants a bonus for just doing their job.

You are paid for working an amount of hours per week, why should you get a bonus for that.

Just another person who wants something for nothing.
So why should managers get a £1000 bonus, just for doing their job?

Is it not a bonus advance? I.E. It will be deducted from what they're paid out in June/July 2020, that's if they get a bonus next year?
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mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:Another person who wants a bonus for just doing their job.

You are paid for working an amount of hours per week, why should you get a bonus for that.

Just another person who wants something for nothing.
Personalising a point of view diminishes any value your argument may have. But then I believe you understand that and choose to do so for your own reasons.

Just my opinion but a less confrontational reply, that still gets your point across without personalising it would have been.

"We are paid for working an amount of hours per week, why should we get a bonus for that."

The ad hominin point after is superfluous and pointless.
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Post by aiden01 »

picture123 wrote:
greengiant wrote:
mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:Another person who wants a bonus for just doing their job.

You are paid for working an amount of hours per week, why should you get a bonus for that.

Just another person who wants something for nothing.
So why should managers get a £1000 bonus, just for doing their job?

Is it not a bonus advance? I.E. It will be deducted from what they're paid out in June/July 2020, that's if they get a bonus next year?
Indeed it is a bonus advance but if no bonus paid next year the money is not recoverable..
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Post by richietns »

mattjo1@talktalk.net wrote:Another person who wants a bonus for just doing their job.

You are paid for working an amount of hours per week, why should you get a bonus for that.

Just another person who wants something for nothing.
Ile have yours.
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Post by Brandy »

Yamr1 wrote:If the manager's get £1000 in December we surely must get double that for doing the genuine hard work throughout crimbo lol

We wish
So you should,but dont forget all this bullying and harrassment by RM managers must really wear them out! :roll:
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Post by ewancurze »

If we strike we will still get the £100 that is part of the failed "share" scheme we had a few years ago but will lose the actual £100 "bonus" part.
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Post by Dorset Plodder »

I'm not too bothered .... I'll be quids in when my "Colleague Shares" pay out! :whistle
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Post by number one »

ewancurze wrote:If we strike we will still get the £100 that is part of the failed "share" scheme we had a few years ago but will lose the actual £100 "bonus" part.
Since when?
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Post by ewancurze »

number one wrote:
ewancurze wrote:If we strike we will still get the £100 that is part of the failed "share" scheme we had a few years ago but will lose the actual £100 "bonus" part.
Since when?
About 4 years ago I think.
Our Christmas bonus is still £100 the other £100 is money from the "Colleague Shares" debacle, I think it was worked out to be £1400 which is being paid to us over 14yrs.
My recollection is a bit vague but there must be something about it on this site somewhere.
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Post by ewancurze »

Here is a post from 2016 about the 2 components of the bonus.



dingo wrote:
No you don't ! The 2 separate christmas bonus have two different qualifying criterias and 2 separate pay directives.

The EX IWM £100 bonus which has been around for many years has a criteria that if you work 2 weeks in December at an higher contract than you will qualify for an higher share of that xmas bonus up to the full £100.

The second £100 Christmas Bonus which was the replacement to the Colleague Share scheme is based on a part timers average hours on single rate pay ( not SA ) during the year.



TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
dougfunny892 wrote:
No truth in the rumour that we are only getting a £100 this year?


some truth.

The official Christmas Bonus is £100. The extra £100 is from the BT2010 agreement/Colleague shares.

Just like we always get Christmas at this time of year we will also get the same questions about the Bonus.

1. How much is it - £200 in total for a FT.
2. Is it pro rata - yes although in 2 different ways - the Colleagueshares bit is based on OT up to 39 hours the Xmas bit on contracted hours during the weeks before Christmas.
3. When is it paid - the last Pay Day before Christmas (23 Dec 2016)
4. If you are off sick you lose some. Only if you are on reduced pay. If you are on full pay you get the full entitlement.
5. You lose some if you are on strike - Correct 10% per day for unofficial action and 3% for official action. Days are counted from midnight to midnight.
6. Does everyone get the bonus - No. Casuals don't but anyone on a fixed term or long term contract does, although as far as I know you have to employed for the full qualifying period of the 4 weeks before Christmas.



or has there been a cockup?
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Post by Chelseablue »

Some caring staff will mop up all the overtime while we are out on strike fighting for our jobs and theres .