Who's ready to take industrial action?

miles_peters · Post by **miles_peters** » 18 Sep 2019, 16:22

a yes vote is to save your job. hopefully the no voters will be potentially part of the 20 thousand who lose their jobs

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 18 Sep 2019, 16:46

miles_peters wrote:a yes vote is to save your job. hopefully the no voters will be potentially part of the 20 thousand who lose their jobs

i mean this isnt just about saving jobs, its about saving the job we have. If RM had their way this wouldnt be a job worth saving for me and id leave.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 18 Sep 2019, 17:08

clashcityrocker wrote:
Phantom wrote:
If you vote No that makes you a disgrace!
I voted no.
I have always wanted to be a disgrace.
Lifetime ambition fulfilled. Thank you.

disgraceful!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 18 Sep 2019, 17:15

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
miles_peters wrote:name and shame the NO voters on this poll. disgrace!
No, what is a disgrace is people who live in a Democracy, and then post such drivel when other people disagree with them.

Apart from that, I am sure it's against the law anyway.

like ''remoaners'' you mean?

Post by **wacko74** » 18 Sep 2019, 17:19

DGH wrote:I'll vote yes.

.

I also think that we'll get a decent vote in favour. RM will then ask to go into further talks (over the Christmas period). Then in the new year they'll offer a s**t deal involving a few hundred quid and a small pay rise, together with some non-binding promises concerning working conditions, which the CWU will advise us to accept. And we will.

That actually sounds like a very optimistic prediction to me, at the very most we might get back to square one (i.e. the previously agreed four pillars) with no cash bung or additional pay rise.

Post by **Brandy** » 18 Sep 2019, 17:34

What has this once great job become?

scoobydo79 · Post by **scoobydo79** » 18 Sep 2019, 17:36

I’m thinking it’s gonna take more than a big yes vote this time round.Maybe one day of industrial action just to prove our resolve

kookoo32 · Post by **kookoo32** » 18 Sep 2019, 17:43

DGH wrote:I'll vote yes.

But I fear that the CWU persisting with demanding a shorter working week and also resisting increased use of PDA actuals will play into RM's hands. While there are legitimate concerns about PDA actuals, if we have the right to access our own actuals in our own defence then there is less to be frightened of.

I also think that we'll get a decent vote in favour. RM will then ask to go into further talks (over the Christmas period). Then in the new year they'll offer a s**t deal involving a few hundred quid and a small pay rise, together with some non-binding promises concerning working conditions, which the CWU will advise us to accept. And we will.

I'd add that if people want to vote no, abusing them is hardly going to encourage them to change their minds.

That bold bit is what usually happens isn't it? They offer a couple of hundred quid and people are blinded by the pound signs and that deal is accepted. This mostly ends up in short-term gain, long-term pain as once you've spent your blood money then that's it.

chickenwittle · Post by **chickenwittle** » 18 Sep 2019, 18:27

kookoo32 wrote:
DGH wrote:I'll vote yes.

But I fear that the CWU persisting with demanding a shorter working week and also resisting increased use of PDA actuals will play into RM's hands. While there are legitimate concerns about PDA actuals, if we have the right to access our own actuals in our own defence then there is less to be frightened of.

I also think that we'll get a decent vote in favour. RM will then ask to go into further talks (over the Christmas period). Then in the new year they'll offer a s**t deal involving a few hundred quid and a small pay rise, together with some non-binding promises concerning working conditions, which the CWU will advise us to accept. And we will.

I'd add that if people want to vote no, abusing them is hardly going to encourage them to change their minds.
That bold bit is what usually happens isn't it? They offer a couple of hundred quid and people are blinded by the pound signs and that deal is accepted. This mostly ends up in short-term gain, long-term pain as once you've spent your blood money then that's it.

I wouldn’t blame the workforce for this , what usually happens is the Cwu recommend we accept the deal which is basically saying this is as good as it gets.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 18 Sep 2019, 19:14

I've applied to the supreme court to have the result of this poll set aside on the basis that it is funded by Putin.

Post by **bakersdozen** » 18 Sep 2019, 19:23

I won't bother voting

scoobydo79 · Post by **scoobydo79** » 18 Sep 2019, 19:59

bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting

Why??

miles_peters · Post by **miles_peters** » 18 Sep 2019, 20:15

bakersdozen wrote:I won't bother voting

bad attitude and you lose the right to complain about your job and your terms and conditions. The cwu is there to protect your job and your income remember that

Post by **bitterpill** » 18 Sep 2019, 22:25

TBT. You blocked a post by me a few years ago that wasn’t in agreement with yours. You shut down members as I was back in the day! Isnt that undemocrative?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 19 Sep 2019, 10:07

daveyeff wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
miles_peters wrote:name and shame the NO voters on this poll. disgrace!
No, what is a disgrace is people who live in a Democracy, and then post such drivel when other people disagree with them.

Apart from that, I am sure it's against the law anyway.
like ''remoaners'' you mean?

I think you reinforced my point - remoaners is so childish. As is calling remains traitors, people voting different can only be traitors in a totalitarian state, is that what people want.

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