so how many on here or posties you know on a stage 2

[DGP1]

My main point was the total glee on the DOM's face, when he thought he had me.

I feel there is an agenda here. Brownie points for sackings etc.

Orders from High are "It will & it must be 60/40%" , they've had their fingers burnt paying up all those 15 layers of management , that's why they want bare minimum notice and rid of MTSF .

From experience of a previous industry , RM would want their grubby/ dirty hands on people's pension money , the staff paper always used to brag about that , there was even a case when Mgrs knew that a retiring Office Worker would going out for drinks at lunchtime , so they got managers to spy on him & his mates and sacked them all for drinking .All over the staff paper .

I've seen a Inspector win a Tribunal & the Union had to fight tooth & nail to get his pension money back when he was reinstated with a very chilling ,sinister manager .

We can all rest assured that Crozier & his Senior Managers will always get their pensions ,as they are convientally in a different scheme. :cfo :cfo :lfo

What a f***ing company.

If I was a manager I would never be able to go home, look my wife in the eye, and tell I had had a good day at work.

I have managed before and always prided myself on the fact that I MANAGED the staff. Trusting them and hoping they trusted me. Get the job done with minimum of fuss.
This lot seem hellbent on pissing all and sundrie off and do not give a s**t!!! Sad sad little people.

Here here brother, bad senior management equals bad junior management

[harmony]

Last june i was off for three month, My manager told me that the will be a stage one warning to be given to me and that he will give me the standard official stage one meeting the week after. Its been a nearly 15months since he told me that and i have still yet to be officially given a stage one warning. Would they still issue me that after so long?

One postie at our office lost his father suddenly last year same time his mother was ruhed to hospital with heart problems, came back to work after 3 weeks the f..cki.g twat of a DOM gave him a stage warning!!! If only dickhead had looked at his intranet the first line says and i quote 'MUST USE COMMON SENSE........ need i say anymore!! He (DOM) has since moved on now the stories have come out apparently he got his arse kicked big style where do they get em from!!

[jackdaw]

I was on a stage 2 but I have recently cleared back down to zero stages, ironically I was off sick when this happened. I was in a car crash, not my fault and I have had a return to work with no stage interview yet.

[capricorn]

Just given a STAGE 2 today following 5 weeks sick due to an infection after a prostate biopsy :lfo
I'm about the same age as AL, I just hope his body starts falling apart soon. Probably never had anything worse than BUM sores from his executive leather swivel chair two days a week :lfo

Was a review of the sickness procedures under discussion in the recent negotiations, probably not ?

Stuffed by RM & the union, well done B & G

[baldrick]

Just given a STAGE 2 today following 5 weeks sick due to an infection after a prostate biopsy :lfo
I'm about the same age as AL, I just hope his body starts falling apart soon. Probably never had anything worse than BUM sores from his executive leather swivel chair two days a week :lfo

Was a review of the sickness procedures under discussion in the recent negotiations, probably not ?

Stuffed by RM & the union, well done B & G

It seems to be part of the remit of Joint Working Group 1 - ..."covering issues like attendance, conduct and performance management".

To report back before the end of April 2008.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Royal Mail managers do not do Man Managemrnt IMHO. I have also worked as a supervisor in other roles and all I see both on this board and in real life is that all the problems seem to stem from one of the following:

Delegation from Higher Management but not as most managers know it. More like I want this done and I want it done this way. Not as it should be, I need this done and how you do it is up to you, if you have problems please call.

Crisis mis-management. IMHO you all see this on a daily basis.

Line Managers are not allowed to make their own decision they always have to go a check with the next tier of management.

Royal Mail seems to fail on one major point, most (not all) Managers do not plan ahead and make contingency plans, they always seem to panic when something out of the ordinary happens.

[greynut]

Royal Mail managers do not do Man Managemrnt IMHO. I have also worked as a supervisor in other roles and all I see both on this board and in real life is that all the problems seem to stem from one of the following:

Delegation from Higher Management but not as most managers know it. More like I want this done and I want it done this way. Not as it should be, I need this done and how you do it is up to you, if you have problems please call.

Crisis mis-management. IMHO you all see this on a daily basis.

Line Managers are not allowed to make their own decision they always have to go a check with the next tier of management.

Royal Mail seems to fail on one major point, most (not all) Managers do not plan ahead and make contingency plans, they always seem to panic when something out of the ordinary happens.

So true.

Really are just yes men. You se then amm scurrying around asking each other and then the next what should be done when something out of the blue happens.

Management should be about getting the job done, of course, but as a team. Discussions, even advice from a subordonate who may see something a bit clearer.

Authority with responsibility. You must have both as a manager or it will not work. If you are given one without the other then you become either a dictator, who gives orders but wont make a decision or just a yes man, who gets all the responsibilty but cant be seen giving an order.

Line managers are given only responsibilty. DOMS are given only authority. Thats why the place is a mess.

[meweavy]

I,ve got away with being issued a 2 twice now, both times they didn,t follow the correct procedure and failed to give me a back to work interview on my first day back, our rep had them screwed.

thats what has happened.i was supposed to have my interview today..
but i didnt..
and besides that,i didnt have a back to work interview on my 1st day back neither..so i might be ok touch wood,as they havent giving me a back to work interview and also they assumed what illness i was off with,instead ogf me telling them what was actually wrong with me..