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" 8. Sustaining the universal postal service.
We will ensure postal users have access to a sustainable and efficient service. "

I could interpret that in 2 ways.
1. We will protect the 6 day week USO
Or....
2. " efficient" we will possibly be cutting the 6 day USO down to a lower figure.
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Post by aiden01 »

lambert246 wrote:https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations- ... an-2019-20

Found this but initial speed read cannot find review date, only that they are committed to maintaining USO
Definitely up for review in 2020
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Cost modelling:
A3.144- A3.148 if you want the RM info.
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Ok thanks. A link would be handy as I cannot locate a review date in offcoms 2019/20 report where it would logically be.
I gotta skoot. If anyone could PM me or post to the bringing forward by 2 years I would appreciate.
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lambert246 wrote:Ok thanks. A link would be handy as I cannot locate a review date in offcoms 2019/20 report where it would logically be.
I gotta skoot. If anyone could PM me or post to the bringing forward by 2 years I would appreciate.
What are OFCOM doing?
OFCOM have brought forward a review of Royal Mail services from 2022 to this year.
Annual Plan 2019/20

We will bring forward some of the work we had planned to undertake as part of our next
review of the regulation of Royal Mail which, as we set out in spring 2017,22 we intended to
undertake by 2022.
3.28 In the next financial year, in addition to our current work programme, we will:
• Carry out a review of Royal Mail’s efficiency. This work will give us more insights into
the likely future sustainability of the universal postal service. We intend to provide our
latest view on the sustainability of the universal postal service in Q3.

Edited from; Ofcom’s Annual Plan programme of work for 2019/20
In this link;
https://tamebay.com/2019/05/royal-mail- ... arter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by itinerant »

lambert246 wrote:Ok thanks. A link would be handy as I cannot locate a review date in offcoms 2019/20 report where it would logically be.
I gotta skoot. If anyone could PM me or post to the bringing forward by 2 years I would appreciate.
More detail in OFCOM Annual Plan here https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... 019-20.pdf
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Post by wf »

How can you really expect the sheep to do the job properly?
I’m sick of hearing that argument
There have been workers doing the job properly for years only to be broken by bullying managers
Do you think the sheep want any of that bullying turned to them ?
Tp lives on a totally different planet to the people he is meant to represent
We were ready for actiom ,he got the mandate .then secured the money for fulltime release reps
He got us to vote on a total sham agreement
Change of culture ,he wasn’t serious was he ?
Pension ? Hows it going
Hour off working week .more pressure to complete more like
I really do fear for the union if they can’t get this bullying sorted, at the end of his speech there ,it wasn’t even one of the things he considered ,that speaks volumes !
Concentrate on what the members want ,they want to do their work ,go home on time and not be bullied .
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wf wrote:How can you really expect the sheep to do the job properly?
I’m sick of hearing that argument
There have been workers doing the job properly for years only to be broken by bullying managers
Do you think the sheep want any of that bullying turned to them ?
Tp lives on a totally different planet to the people he is meant to represent
We were ready for actiom ,he got the mandate .then secured the money for fulltime release reps
He got us to vote on a total sham agreement
Change of culture ,he wasn’t serious was he ?
Pension ? Hows it going
Hour off working week .more pressure to complete more like
I really do fear for the union if they can’t get this bullying sorted, at the end of his speech there ,it wasn’t even one of the things he considered ,that speaks volumes !
Concentrate on what the members want ,they want to do their work ,go home on time and not be bullied .
Well said again. This is what has happened to me, I come in to work and do the job the way RM say you should do the job, trolley's taking breaks and so on. How does RM treat me? They bully me every day and have been for years as I can't "complete" I am now out on sick with stress. Going to the union in northern Ireland is like talking to another manager, and RM See's this and just walks over anyone who just does the job properly.
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Post by yellowbelly »

lambert246 wrote:https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations- ... an-2019-20

Found this but initial speed read cannot find review date, only that they are committed to maintaining USO
This is OFCOM's Programme of work for 19/20:
We will bring forward some of the work we had planned to undertake as part of our next
review of the regulation of Royal Mail
which, as we set out in spring 2017, we intended to
undertake by 2022.

3.28 In the next financial year, in addition to our current work programme, we will:
• Carry out a review of Royal Mail’s efficiency. This work will give us more insights into
the likely future sustainability of the universal postal service. We intend to provide our
latest view on the sustainability of the universal postal service in Q3.

• Seek to understand the needs of postal users better. We will carry out research to
review the extent to which the postal market is meeting the reasonable needs of users
in light of changes in the market, in particular the growth in online shopping and
continued decline in letters. We will assess implications arising from changes in postal
user needs. We plan to publish preliminary findings in Q4.
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

How can you really expect the sheep to do the job properly?
I’m sick of hearing that argument
There have been workers doing the job properly for years only to be broken by bullying managers
I spent years trying to encourage members to "do the job properly" only to finally see it for what it was once I started spending time with senior union officials.

It's an excuse to pass the buck, to do nothing to help frontline staff, it's nothing more than a handy get out clause for lazy reps who can't be arsed defending their unit, area or division and it goes all the way up to the top of the union. Everything would be so much better if members just did the job properly, it's really all their fault blah blah blah.

You stop the bullying, the pressure, the constant harassment members will in the most part do the job properly, you leave them at the mercy of management they will quite rightly do what they have to do to keep their job and their sanity.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Post by aiden01 »

gand wrote:
wf wrote:How can you really expect the sheep to do the job properly?
I’m sick of hearing that argument
There have been workers doing the job properly for years only to be broken by bullying managers
Do you think the sheep want any of that bullying turned to them ?
Tp lives on a totally different planet to the people he is meant to represent
We were ready for actiom ,he got the mandate .then secured the money for fulltime release reps
He got us to vote on a total sham agreement
Change of culture ,he wasn’t serious was he ?
Pension ? Hows it going
Hour off working week .more pressure to complete more like
I really do fear for the union if they can’t get this bullying sorted, at the end of his speech there ,it wasn’t even one of the things he considered ,that speaks volumes !
Concentrate on what the members want ,they want to do their work ,go home on time and not be bullied .
Well said again. This is what has happened to me, I come in to work and do the job the way RM say you should do the job, trolley's taking breaks and so on. How does RM treat me? They bully me every day and have been for years as I can't "complete" I am now out on sick with stress. Going to the union in northern Ireland is like talking to another manager, and RM See's this and just walks over anyone who just does the job properly.
Just hope the members in ni know 1 of the pec members is looking your support for re-election to pec will defo not be getting mine as only time you see him is when there is an election of some kind..and even then when he visits the mc he only seems to talk to management :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown
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Post by DGH »

Woody Guthrie wrote:

I spent years trying to encourage members to "do the job properly" only to finally see it for what it was once I started spending time with senior union officials.

It's an excuse to pass the buck, to do nothing to help frontline staff, it's nothing more than a handy get out clause for lazy reps who can't be arsed defending their unit, area or division and it goes all the way up to the top of the union. Everything would be so much better if members just did the job properly, it's really all their fault blah blah blah.

You stop the bullying, the pressure, the constant harassment members will in the most part do the job properly, you leave them at the mercy of management they will quite rightly do what they have to do to keep their job and their sanity.
Well said.
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Po.
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Don't waste time telling members to do the job properly, they know what they've got to do but refuse to do it. Therefore let them learn the hard way and it's coming with pda timings, if you're a runner then you WILL get more and eventually the penny will drop. It has at my office, finally, but it was too late for some and there was no re-pick of duties either so what they got they were stuck with.
CUT OFF!!!
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Post by hero22 »

To be fair to Terry, things would or could be a lot worse if it wasn't for the unions involvement. I think a lot of the staff have to take responsibility especially those who refuse to do the job properly. I have family in other jobs with no union and their treatment is far worse than what we get.