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Allan Leighton & Adam Crozier Video's
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waffler
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Leighton DVD
Personally I sat behind someone who's head blocked my view last week and ignored the rest. 
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Big Daz
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F0zziebear
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- Joined: 31 Jan 2007, 23:45
re: Trueblue is right
I have left and yes you're probably right I haven't had my management speak reversal op yet.
I think deliveries are in the best shape as posties are probably better able to justify their pay in terms of pay per unit of mail. Collections, outward processing and outward distribution is probably where the major inefficiency is. This naturally follows as huge lumps of outward mailsort is being handled by competitors.
The amount of Mail Centres needs to reduce dramatically. In the past there was lots of mail going backwards and forwards as letters were as much a social/business correspondence as an advertising medium. This has changed. We don't need mail centres next to train stations either. We need large one storey warehouses with the latest processign machinery.
I think there are about 70 mail centres still. This could quite easily be cut in half. I saw the massive debate in Gloucester where they were losing the mail centre. The local Green MP getting on the bandwagon because they were merging it with Swindon. Nonsense was spoken.
It will be 7 years at least before deliveries especially in urban areas comes under any serious threat from competitors. If RM get ahead now by removing as much primary sortation as possible then it will become harder for competitors to break into E2E as it won't make financial sense or the returns on the massive upfront investment just won't make sense.
In summary shaft your collections and processing chums, your night shift extra pay mates, give anyone who wants EVR, EVR and look after the remaining comrades.
However, there's nothing like a good old strike as it seems the teachers will be eating some salmonella burgers on the picket line as well.
Washedout weekend F0zz
p.s: Got a job :-(
I think deliveries are in the best shape as posties are probably better able to justify their pay in terms of pay per unit of mail. Collections, outward processing and outward distribution is probably where the major inefficiency is. This naturally follows as huge lumps of outward mailsort is being handled by competitors.
The amount of Mail Centres needs to reduce dramatically. In the past there was lots of mail going backwards and forwards as letters were as much a social/business correspondence as an advertising medium. This has changed. We don't need mail centres next to train stations either. We need large one storey warehouses with the latest processign machinery.
I think there are about 70 mail centres still. This could quite easily be cut in half. I saw the massive debate in Gloucester where they were losing the mail centre. The local Green MP getting on the bandwagon because they were merging it with Swindon. Nonsense was spoken.
It will be 7 years at least before deliveries especially in urban areas comes under any serious threat from competitors. If RM get ahead now by removing as much primary sortation as possible then it will become harder for competitors to break into E2E as it won't make financial sense or the returns on the massive upfront investment just won't make sense.
In summary shaft your collections and processing chums, your night shift extra pay mates, give anyone who wants EVR, EVR and look after the remaining comrades.
However, there's nothing like a good old strike as it seems the teachers will be eating some salmonella burgers on the picket line as well.
Washedout weekend F0zz
p.s: Got a job :-(
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DirtyHarry
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- Location: London
FOzziebear........
....... That's a thought that hadn't crossed my mind , my advice to the teachers would be, do what I'll do, bring sandwiches to eat
whilst on picket duty !!!
whilst on picket duty !!!
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stubaby
- Posts: 220
- Joined: 22 May 2007, 19:19
Re: re: Trueblue is right
Sorry mate but being part of a Union is all about sticking together and getting the best collective agreement for everyone not just the chosen few.F0zziebear wrote:I have left and yes you're probably right I haven't had my management speak reversal op yet.
I think deliveries are in the best shape as posties are probably better able to justify their pay in terms of pay per unit of mail. Collections, outward processing and outward distribution is probably where the major inefficiency is. This naturally follows as huge lumps of outward mailsort is being handled by competitors.
The amount of Mail Centres needs to reduce dramatically. In the past there was lots of mail going backwards and forwards as letters were as much a social/business correspondence as an advertising medium. This has changed. We don't need mail centres next to train stations either. We need large one storey warehouses with the latest processign machinery.
I think there are about 70 mail centres still. This could quite easily be cut in half. I saw the massive debate in Gloucester where they were losing the mail centre. The local Green MP getting on the bandwagon because they were merging it with Swindon. Nonsense was spoken.
It will be 7 years at least before deliveries especially in urban areas comes under any serious threat from competitors. If RM get ahead now by removing as much primary sortation as possible then it will become harder for competitors to break into E2E as it won't make financial sense or the returns on the massive upfront investment just won't make sense.
In summary shaft your collections and processing chums, your night shift extra pay mates, give anyone who wants EVR, EVR and look after the remaining comrades.
However, there's nothing like a good old strike as it seems the teachers will be eating some salmonella burgers on the picket line as well.
Washedout weekend F0zz
p.s: Got a job :-(
I do agree with give everyone who wants EVR give it to them but there has to be a ceiling because your office has to operate without shafting the people who stay behind.
Stick together for a brighter future
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fedup postie
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POSTMAN
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Just a quicky.
FOzz i'm gonna sort out your signature seeing as you're too lazy to bloody do it,you're confuseing people
Also congrats on your new job,pm me the juicy bits in confidence obviously.
Also congrats on your new job,pm me the juicy bits in confidence obviously.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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st postie
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- Joined: 07 Feb 2007, 16:36
- Location: staffs
these two pr**s couldnt run a xmas club never mind royal mail all they seem to do is beat us everyday about competition as if its our fault do we have sales reps in royal mail if we do i would hang the lot of them royal mail pays for the regulator and the regulators shaft royal mail we have lost loads of buisness with the banks and water and gas and even bt but what pisses me off what are the 2 feckin ronnies doing about it
they blame the posties say we are underworked and overpaid well mr leighton look in the mirror if you want to see underworked and overpaid
you fcked up leeds united and now its royal mails turn
they blame the posties say we are underworked and overpaid well mr leighton look in the mirror if you want to see underworked and overpaid
you fcked up leeds united and now its royal mails turn
postie st area
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stevie247
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South East Postie
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Big Daz
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You would get enough voluteers for leaving the buissness in my office, if i were 58 and RM said to me take youe pension early and have a lump sum then i would go!
How about this for a delivery duty structure
2.5 hour del back to office for 1 hour meal break then out again for another 2.5 hour del, cut in the working week and a 4 day week
How about this for a delivery duty structure
2.5 hour del back to office for 1 hour meal break then out again for another 2.5 hour del, cut in the working week and a 4 day week
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cruisey
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- Location: BIRMINGHAM
duty
That sounds good but RM and the H&S wouldn't buy it. Mon-Fri 5am til 1pm, 30 minute break. even volumes to deliver. Basic pay £400. Cut the saturdays out full stop. better work life balance. Collections to be covered on docket if people
to earn a bit more. Eutopia if you ask me, but it might work
to earn a bit more. Eutopia if you ask me, but it might work
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stroltroll
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- Joined: 30 May 2007, 17:04
Just watched the two video clips of Leighton/Crozier and like "fedup postie" feel "Leighton should be severely reprimanded" on his language.
We were supposed to be shown a Leighton video in WTL but has never materialized - thank goodness!!
In reply to another post I heard, but can't confirm, that Royal Mail Letters made a profit of around £400 million, counters and other sections were also in profit but letters are carrying the bulk of Royal Mail.
Leighton is saying that by striking we would be putting our pensions in jeopardy but it was management which put them in the precarious position they're in now by putting OUR pension money in the wrong place.
Costs could also be cut by Leighton and Crozier giving back the bonus' they each got of millions and payrises of £750,000 per annum last year alone and go without these this year.
Their intention of getting rid of jobs, making cuts etc is only so they can get another hugh bonus each as a previous posts' wish could be coming true in that I hear both of them are leaving in March 2008 and why THEY "have ambitions to succeed" in making these cuts so THEY have a lovely big Bonus before they leave and leave Royal Mail in a absolute mess.
And by the way, those of you thinking about the so called shares - you can't have shares in a public company which Royal Mail currently is.
On the whole what a pair of (sorry gotta edit this now due to managers snooping)p****s, overpaid, underworked, money grabbing ***** (and now..due to snoopers) sad lot they are
But don't let them grind you down

We were supposed to be shown a Leighton video in WTL but has never materialized - thank goodness!!
In reply to another post I heard, but can't confirm, that Royal Mail Letters made a profit of around £400 million, counters and other sections were also in profit but letters are carrying the bulk of Royal Mail.
Leighton is saying that by striking we would be putting our pensions in jeopardy but it was management which put them in the precarious position they're in now by putting OUR pension money in the wrong place.
Costs could also be cut by Leighton and Crozier giving back the bonus' they each got of millions and payrises of £750,000 per annum last year alone and go without these this year.
Their intention of getting rid of jobs, making cuts etc is only so they can get another hugh bonus each as a previous posts' wish could be coming true in that I hear both of them are leaving in March 2008 and why THEY "have ambitions to succeed" in making these cuts so THEY have a lovely big Bonus before they leave and leave Royal Mail in a absolute mess.
And by the way, those of you thinking about the so called shares - you can't have shares in a public company which Royal Mail currently is.
On the whole what a pair of (sorry gotta edit this now due to managers snooping)p****s, overpaid, underworked, money grabbing ***** (and now..due to snoopers) sad lot they are
But don't let them grind you down
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fedup postie
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