stage warnings

[Razzamadazz]

quote "wolfie citizen smith"

question..

1, can management give a stage 1 warning for a registered A.O.D which resulted in the accident being accepted as Industrial Injury..

2, can management give a stage 2 warning for a continuous problem relating to question 1..

The Attendance Procedure states: Accidents which happen in the course of Royal Mail work would normally be discounted.

With this in mind

A to Q1: This depends on whether management found you blameworthy through the accident investigation. If management deem you as blameworthy they MUST communicate any decision to count absences relating to accidents under the Attendance Procedure to the employee with the reasons for this decision. This should be done on a face to face basis and in writing with a copy of the letter retained in the absence file. This is RM Policy, if you haven't been informed both in writing and face to face that absences relating to your accident at work would count against you I suggest you mention this at your Stage 2 meeting quoting "The People Management Framework, Service Delivery - Attendance Procedure, Accidents on Duty - Guidelines for Managers Section 10.

If the Stage 2 warning was issued I suggest you follow Vigilante's advice and take out a grievance against the manager for not adhereing to RM Policy, quoting the same document. If RM don't adhere to their own policies they won't stand a chance at an Employment Tribunal, this has been tried and tested and won.

A to Q2: Again from the same guideline document it states: WAS THE ABSENCE LINKED TO AN EARLIER ACCIDENT AT WORK? If you need to consider whether an absence is related to an earlier accident on duty you should involve EHS in the first instance as well as discussing the issue with the individual before making your decision. Each case will need to be treated on its merits. Remember to seek advice from your Employment Policy Manager or the Employee Health Service whenever you need expert assistance. Again this all rests on whether you have been informed both in writing and face to face that absences relating to your accident at work would count against you.

I hope this helps mate.

[wolfie citizen smith]

thank you for all your help i will let you know the outcome soon

i have simpson and millar dealing with this case, who are agreeing that this manager was negligent and dealing with accordingly, how long do legal cases nonrmally take to settle??

[Razzamadazz]

thank you for all your help i will let you know the outcome soon

i have simpson and millar dealing with this case, who are agreeing that this manager was negligent and dealing with accordingly, how long do legal cases nonrmally take to settle??

You could be in for the long haul, I've heard some cases take up to 2yrs to be concluded. Let's hope you get lucky huh and it don't take that long.