A bit down hearted!

[stephen500]

I hate to say this, and at least i can say i voted no, that the feeling i have in my mail centre is that the maj will vote yes.
I think it will be down to the delivery postman to save the day.
I have tried telling them, that lots of the elements RM will push through in their 'phases'.
I have also said that they should expect to see a drastic reduction in o/t.
Further more i have tried to ram home the pension losses.
All people think is that we have acheived all we are going to acheive.
I have even tried to tell them, that a no vote may not lead to further strikes and would require a further ballot anyway, and also mentioned the £400 in lost back pay.
Well at least i can hold my head up high, and I take no pleasure when i say in a years time 'that i told you so'.
Fingers crossed there are enough sensible people out there!

[mailsort6]

It's the younger members that do not understand the deal, but I do explain to them what it entails. I tell them that flexibility is ambigous, do they want to stay on another 30 minutes after their duty time, depending on their individual circumstances? Also a yes vote might mean they are voting themselves out of a job because many posties are not aware how many walk sequencing machines, flat machines and iLSM are going to be implemented nationwide (e.g. Phase 3 of the agreement) and also in Phase 4 the annualised and bank hours are still there, this means a reduction in overtime. From what I can see what we went out on strike for is still there, please! read the agreement because this is opened to abuse. Remember the winners and losers from the WAY Forward Agreement which is still having a impact on posties 7 years on.

[vigilante]

IT WILL BE DELIVERY THAT IS SHAFTED AGAIN.
I HAVE BEEN THROUGH ALL AGREEMENTS FROM 84 AND IT IS US ON THE STREETS THAT ARE THE LOSERS.
FROM WHAT I GET FROM TALK AT MY DO IS A DEFINATE NO TO THIS PROPOSAL.
WHERE DO WE GO FROM A NO VOTE? WHO KNOWS. STRIKE AT CHRISTMAS?
WHAT I DONT LIKE IS BEING HELD TO RANSOM TO THE FACT THAT IF WE DON'T EXCEPT THIS WE WILL END UP WITH NO UNION.

[hackedoff]

Don't understand that? Why does no = no union?

[Up Hill Down Hill]

Are we on about the ballot I received 2 days ago?

What am I recommended to do?

CWU seems to lead towards saying Yes

[dvbuk55]

Are we on about the ballot I received 2 days ago?

What am I recommended to do?

CWU seems to lead towards saying Yes

Well the simple answer Pete is that the CWU per se will not be affected one jot by what they are recommending that you agree to. They will not be required to be flexible, work longer, move office, have new working practices imposed to get another 1.5% pay increase, have annualised hours, meet targets, cover for sick and holiday colleagues, work harder during summer and agree to a cut in their pension.

So, to make themselves look good and to justify their existence, they have made a major production of making a bad job look good - in short Pete - you should really vote NO.

[Regal]

JUST SAY NO

[rebel]

A Fat Big NO is the only answer. Forget the CWU reccomendation - they don't have to do the work! You, my friend - and me and the other "walking men" have been shafted and unless we vote "NO" then we have no future.

A "No" vote doesn't neccessarily mean another strike. It is merely telling the executive that this is b*****ks - try again!!! Come back with something without all the issues that we went on strike for in the first place and maybe then we'll support you.