Chalky13 wrote:Tommy, you do have some good points sometimes but you also spout some shite when someone disagrees with you
I do let my emotions carry me away at times and readily accept those failings and agree with you.
I try to be constructive but in response to some critics I may spout shite, like fighting fire with fire!
postslippete wrote:Actually tommyrep makes some really interesting comments especially on the subject on managers doing OPGs work. I've seen a few managers in our office putting in prep work and going out doing loops. Maybe they are short-handed in cases of sick absence but in some cases they have put mail in the frame and then lapsed the duty. If managers are simply behaving as posties then where is their management Union in all this??
That’s rife in our office
Managers prep the lapsing walk
Often wondered what the managers Union stand is on their members doing OPG work?
From our-CWU- perspective it should be stopped.
Recruiting capability is reduced, while they are striving to protect bonuses I suppose.
tommyrep wrote:Often wondered what the managers Union stand is on their members doing OPG work?
I'm surprised that RM haven't looked into either downgrading them to be "Team leaders" (normal OPG pay + Leadership Allowance - however much that is) or demoting them to be normal posties. Added up across all of RM that's probably a great amount of savings that RM could make
tommyrep wrote:Often wondered what the managers Union stand is on their members doing OPG work?
I'm surprised that RM haven't looked into either downgrading them to be "Team leaders" (normal OPG pay + Leadership Allowance - however much that is) or demoting them to be normal posties. Added up across all of RM that's probably a great amount of savings that RM could make
True, however, i suggest 2 principles guide Royal Mail management appointment policy.
They are
1. The Peter Principle which is an observation that the tendency in most organizational hierarchies, such as that of a corporation, is for every employee to rise in the hierarchy through promotion until they reach the levels of their respective incompetence.
and
2. Crap flows downhill
Combine the 2 and you have someone to blame when it goes wrong, it also sadly means that its self perpetuating.
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
1. The Peter Principle which is an observation that the tendency in most organizational hierarchies, such as that of a corporation, is for every employee to rise in the hierarchy through promotion until they reach the levels of their respective incompetence.
A good chunk of management are external to RM. Only ever seen a couple of people go from acting to permanent. Generally line managers these days come from external to the business