Allan Leighton & Adam Crozier Video's

stevie247 · Post by **stevie247** » 27 May 2007, 16:26

Like someone else said my blood is boiling at these two muppets,.stating that we are 25% overpaid and 40% underworked.One says we've lost 40% of the bulk mail the other says 20% what is it ?.I'll tell you DOWNSTREAM ACESS all these companies DHL TNT UKMAIL etc.are getting paid while we do the work utter madness,but its our fault BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT! TIME TO TAKE A STAND VOTE YES TO STRIKE ACTION.

F0zziebear · Post by **F0zziebear** » 27 May 2007, 17:23

In reality only Mailsort 2 is being targetted by competitors. It's almost impossible to break into the Mailsort 3 market without delivering the mail themselves.

The companies get paid and then handover most of the revenue to RM. So whilst RM have lost the contract they still retain most of the revenue, it just means tha RM's collection and especially outward processing capability is less efficicent than before. The delivery side hasn't changed regardless of liberalisation. But overall RM has lost revenue and therefore their fixed costs (staff) are now more expensive per unit than before.

NOw is probably a better time for people to separate the Royal Mail pipeline. I understand the organisation has done this in operational management with heads of processing, delivery etc.... RM are following a similar path to BT, so best to look at how they faired

Good luck with the strike, lucky I don't send any mail and what I recieve is mainly junk anyway!

F0zz

Post by **POSTMAN** » 27 May 2007, 17:27

The delivery side hasn't changed regardless of liberalisation

Have a word with them two numnuts then

martin · Post by **martin** » 27 May 2007, 17:42

how can you believe a man in a pink shirt

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » 27 May 2007, 19:19

Are these the videos they are planning to show on our new remained idle for over a month now big screens? I suppose i can see why they have remained idle if thats the case. Crozier's ramble was probobly a little confused as he was off to his other job straight after the shoot so please cut him some slack guys.

sean38 · Post by **sean38** » 27 May 2007, 19:28

I can remember when leighton joined the bussiness 5 yrs ago he seems to have put alot of weight on since then its probably all that money he has been conning out of us posties (I thank you)

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 27 May 2007, 19:30

This is the response from the branch secretary of st neots and district labour party after i emailed him the two videos to watch.

These guys are obviously talking bollocks esp re: the win-win, lose-lose dichotomy relating to taking/not taking ind action. They repeated this several times and contradicted themselves on other questions which suggests that they are making it up. Sounds to me like they're just intimidating/threatening the workforce - hopefully nobody is taking this seriously.

Still mystified as to why the CWU has not put PH as no 1 recomendation as he has publicly guaranteed support for a review of competition (see his website) with a DLL saying this it is almost guaranteed to happen.

tommymac · Post by **tommymac** » 27 May 2007, 19:53

I received a postcard from Royal Mail yesterday. It said ''don't let other people decide your future'' and '' Make your own decision'' after watching the two videos my decision HAS been made for me (as if I needed any persuading) YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

stubaby · Post by **stubaby** » 27 May 2007, 19:58

tommymac wrote:I received a postcard from Royal Mail yesterday. It said ''don't let other people decide your future'' and '' Make your own decision'' after watching the two videos my decision HAS been made for me (as if I needed any persuading) YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

Yeah it said dont let other people decide your future then it said vote no

Tossers are desperate for us NOT to walk out it would put immense pressure on them.

F0zziebear · Post by **F0zziebear** » 27 May 2007, 20:59

If any of you trust these guys to carry out what they say then you are pretty naive. Hain like the others would sell their own mothers if it got them votes. If they're so good they why don't they run for the leadership election rather than for some freak show position called deputy leader. What does the deputy leader do?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 27 May 2007, 21:04

What does the deputy leader do?

Drives 2 Jags and thumps people.

Though seriously as we cant vote for the Leader the only chance, albeit a small one, to change anything is to vote for the one you distrust least. IMHO thats Hain.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 27 May 2007, 21:32

Acts as the link between party and goverment, ensuring the lab PM/leader is aware and understands the concerns of the rank and file who after all are the ones who with their campaining and hard work win the elections.

Based on that do you think prescott has done a good job as deputy leader of lab party

Dont confuse dep leader though with dep PM 2 different jobs done by one man !

Jon Cruddas is a CWU MP and is 2nd choice recomendation from CWU NEC

Ive got some info on the CWU NEC recomendations for deputy leader biut have been asked not to quote my source on it as they have their info froma source so unable to fully confirm yet.

All i will say is my hunch that the choice of AJ is down to the non postal side of the NEC is a very good hunch, however i am told that the postal mbrs of the NEC could outvote the non postal side if they chose to do so.

Perhaps attendance at the meeting from the postal side compared to the others should be compared? hint hint

Billy is supposed to be sending some details and info out on NEC choice this week then we will hopefully have ALL the facts!

fedup postie · Post by **fedup postie** » 27 May 2007, 22:02

F0zziebear wrote:
Good luck with the strike, lucky I don't send any mail and what I recieve is mainly junk anyway!

F0zz

You might need to start sending some letters when you are out of a job as Big Al and Little ad want 40,000 jobs was it?

You may not be a manager any more but you still talk like one and perhaps you have not had the brainwash reversal op yet.

fedup postie · Post by **fedup postie** » 27 May 2007, 22:05

And another thing as you quite happily quote the mails pipeline, you refer to mailsort as Junk Mail! Don't forget that it is that very Junk Mail that pays most of your wages!

I send off for lots of Boucher's etc 1 because the subject interests me but 2 to help pay my wages. If we don't help ourselves who else is going to help us?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 27 May 2007, 22:21

fedup postie wrote:And another thing as you quite happily quote the mails pipeline, you refer to mailsort as Junk Mail! Don't forget that it is that very Junk Mail that pays most of your wages!

I send off for lots of Boucher's etc 1 because the subject interests me but 2 to help pay my wages. If we don't help ourselves who else is going to help us?

Good point - however F0zzie is not in RM, used to be but left. Now currently between jobs and giving us an insight to what management think. (Though why they can't get out of London and call in and see a SO or DO or even MDEC in operation is beyond me).

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