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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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Monez.1446
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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I have asked my manager twice in the same conversation but i still don't have an answer. I'm starting earlier, finishing later & not getting my break... Wasn't shown how to book overtime so I've missed out for 3 weeks. Not really looking forward to going in tomorrow. Feel like i'm being taken advantage of when all i want is to be treated fairly. Still not got my contract either :sad:

Please advise
Spedley
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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I went 10 minutes over on Saturday so I booked 15 minutes (time and a half).
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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Spedley wrote:I went 10 minutes over on Saturday so I booked 15 minutes (time and a half).
Thats fraud
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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Monez.1446 wrote:I have asked my manager twice in the same conversation but i still don't have an answer. I'm starting earlier, finishing later & not getting my break... Wasn't shown how to book overtime so I've missed out for 3 weeks. Not really looking forward to going in tomorrow. Feel like i'm being taken advantage of when all i want is to be treated fairly. Still not got my contract either :sad:

Please advise
As a new starter of course you feel pressured into doing what your good as you don't know anything of the way RM works. Firstly it you haven't already then join the union. Then ask your DOM (delivery office manager) your exact start and finish work times and where your contract is. DO NOT come in early if your not getting paid for it and cut off (UNABLE TO FINISH YOUR DELIVERY) if you don't have enough time. The bookroom postie, the postie who's usually standing with a cup of tea watching you walksort, will input your overtime (DOCKET) for you or your line manager (LINO) if your office has done away with bookroom. It's too much to put down on this post but the best thing to do is to see the UNION rep or a postie who's helpful and ask for help. There are work place coaches in offices but they seem to do everything but coach new starts. I know you will feel like you will never get the hang of it but you will. Just poor along at a reasonable pace, coming in at your official start time, finishing at the office at your official finish time, unless you WANT the overtime and you will soon get the hang of it. Don't get involved in the office politics/gossip. It is still a good job so I hope you get the problems resolved and stick it out as I'm sure you will come to like it.
The Postman
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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Navalron wrote:
Monez.1446 wrote:I have asked my manager twice in the same conversation but i still don't have an answer. I'm starting earlier, finishing later & not getting my break... Wasn't shown how to book overtime so I've missed out for 3 weeks. Not really looking forward to going in tomorrow. Feel like i'm being taken advantage of when all i want is to be treated fairly. Still not got my contract either :sad:

Please advise
As a new starter of course you feel pressured into doing what your good as you don't know anything of the way RM works. Firstly it you haven't already then join the union. Then ask your DOM (delivery office manager) your exact start and finish work times and where your contract is. DO NOT come in early if your not getting paid for it and cut off (UNABLE TO FINISH YOUR DELIVERY) if you don't have enough time. The bookroom postie, the postie who's usually standing with a cup of tea watching you walksort, will input your overtime (DOCKET) for you or your line manager (LINO) if your office has done away with bookroom. It's too much to put down on this post but the best thing to do is to see the UNION rep or a postie who's helpful and ask for help. There are work place coaches in offices but they seem to do everything but coach new starts. I know you will feel like you will never get the hang of it but you will. Just poor along at a reasonable pace, coming in at your official start time, finishing at the office at your official finish time, unless you WANT the overtime and you will soon get the hang of it. Don't get involved in the office politics/gossip. It is still a good job so I hope you get the problems resolved and stick it out as I'm sure you will come to like it.
Whatever you think is reasonable, personally I don’t book o/t if it’s 10 minutes and I’m certain I’ll make it back the same week. Anything over 15 mins I book, unless I finished an hour early the day before. Most posties go on a swings and roundabouts basis. However as there’s no policy for banking hours in place then you can book every minute you work over. However, you don’t have to come in early and you don’t have to work over. There’s plenty info on the cutting off procedure on this forum, if your a new start then I’d try being a little flexible with your hours until your through the 6 month trial, but only if your able. Also, your entitled to 30 mins rest break for working more than 5 hours, 40 mins for 7 hours, 50 mins for 9 hours. This can be split and some offices take part of their break at the end of the day. You’ll need to ask someone in your office about when breaks are taken.

Hope this helps.
Monez.1446
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

Post by Monez.1446 »

Navalron wrote:
Monez.1446 wrote:I have asked my manager twice in the same conversation but i still don't have an answer. I'm starting earlier, finishing later & not getting my break... Wasn't shown how to book overtime so I've missed out for 3 weeks. Not really looking forward to going in tomorrow. Feel like i'm being taken advantage of when all i want is to be treated fairly. Still not got my contract either :sad:

Please advise
As a new starter of course you feel pressured into doing what your good as you don't know anything of the way RM works. Firstly it you haven't already then join the union. Then ask your DOM (delivery office manager) your exact start and finish work times and where your contract is. DO NOT come in early if your not getting paid for it and cut off (UNABLE TO FINISH YOUR DELIVERY) if you don't have enough time. The bookroom postie, the postie who's usually standing with a cup of tea watching you walksort, will input your overtime (DOCKET) for you or your line manager (LINO) if your office has done away with bookroom. It's too much to put down on this post but the best thing to do is to see the UNION rep or a postie who's helpful and ask for help. There are work place coaches in offices but they seem to do everything but coach new starts. I know you will feel like you will never get the hang of it but you will. Just poor along at a reasonable pace, coming in at your official start time, finishing at the office at your official finish time, unless you WANT the overtime and you will soon get the hang of it. Don't get involved in the office politics/gossip. It is still a good job so I hope you get the problems resolved and stick it out as I'm sure you will come to like it.

Yes i joined the union online, I have taken a picture of the hours on the wall that are the hours i am following as a 24hour employee & i'm going to stick to them until they change. I don't mind running over if i am getting paid for it & now i will because i have been shown how!Spoken to the union rep & it seems as though he's going to be looking after me :) I feel as though i'm really getting the hang of the whole walking & posting bit! Can't believe how many miles i've walked since i started! Thankyou so much for taking your time out to message me, it means alot :) x
Monez.1446
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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The Postman wrote:
Navalron wrote:
Monez.1446 wrote:I have asked my manager twice in the same conversation but i still don't have an answer. I'm starting earlier, finishing later & not getting my break... Wasn't shown how to book overtime so I've missed out for 3 weeks. Not really looking forward to going in tomorrow. Feel like i'm being taken advantage of when all i want is to be treated fairly. Still not got my contract either :sad:

Please advise
As a new starter of course you feel pressured into doing what your good as you don't know anything of the way RM works. Firstly it you haven't already then join the union. Then ask your DOM (delivery office manager) your exact start and finish work times and where your contract is. DO NOT come in early if your not getting paid for it and cut off (UNABLE TO FINISH YOUR DELIVERY) if you don't have enough time. The bookroom postie, the postie who's usually standing with a cup of tea watching you walksort, will input your overtime (DOCKET) for you or your line manager (LINO) if your office has done away with bookroom. It's too much to put down on this post but the best thing to do is to see the UNION rep or a postie who's helpful and ask for help. There are work place coaches in offices but they seem to do everything but coach new starts. I know you will feel like you will never get the hang of it but you will. Just poor along at a reasonable pace, coming in at your official start time, finishing at the office at your official finish time, unless you WANT the overtime and you will soon get the hang of it. Don't get involved in the office politics/gossip. It is still a good job so I hope you get the problems resolved and stick it out as I'm sure you will come to like it.

Whatever you think is reasonable, personally I don’t book o/t if it’s 10 minutes and I’m certain I’ll make it back the same week. Anything over 15 mins I book, unless I finished an hour early the day before. Most posties go on a swings and roundabouts basis. However as there’s no policy for banking hours in place then you can book every minute you work over. However, you don’t have to come in early and you don’t have to work over. There’s plenty info on the cutting off procedure on this forum, if your a new start then I’d try being a little flexible with your hours until your through the 6 month trial, but only if your able. Also, your entitled to 30 mins rest break for working more than 5 hours, 40 mins for 7 hours, 50 mins for 9 hours. This can be split and some offices take part of their break at the end of the day. You’ll need to ask someone in your office about when breaks are taken.

Hope this helps.

Thanks that does really help to know, was wondering about the whole trial thing because i am permanent.. but i suppose i need to actually be good at it for them to want to keep me! Asked someone who i work with today & they say anything over half an hour they book... I'm sure i will know everything better in a few more weeks. I'm still fairly new so i'm bound to still be picking things up. Abit cruel starting me a week before christmas :crazy: :left:
yellowbelly
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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Monez.1446 wrote:
The Postman wrote:
Navalron wrote:
Monez.1446 wrote:I have asked my manager twice in the same conversation but i still don't have an answer. I'm starting earlier, finishing later & not getting my break... Wasn't shown how to book overtime so I've missed out for 3 weeks. Not really looking forward to going in tomorrow. Feel like i'm being taken advantage of when all i want is to be treated fairly. Still not got my contract either :sad:

Please advise
As a new starter of course you feel pressured into doing what your good as you don't know anything of the way RM works. Firstly it you haven't already then join the union. Then ask your DOM (delivery office manager) your exact start and finish work times and where your contract is. DO NOT come in early if your not getting paid for it and cut off (UNABLE TO FINISH YOUR DELIVERY) if you don't have enough time. The bookroom postie, the postie who's usually standing with a cup of tea watching you walksort, will input your overtime (DOCKET) for you or your line manager (LINO) if your office has done away with bookroom. It's too much to put down on this post but the best thing to do is to see the UNION rep or a postie who's helpful and ask for help. There are work place coaches in offices but they seem to do everything but coach new starts. I know you will feel like you will never get the hang of it but you will. Just poor along at a reasonable pace, coming in at your official start time, finishing at the office at your official finish time, unless you WANT the overtime and you will soon get the hang of it. Don't get involved in the office politics/gossip. It is still a good job so I hope you get the problems resolved and stick it out as I'm sure you will come to like it.




Whatever you think is reasonable, personally I don’t book o/t if it’s 10 minutes and I’m certain I’ll make it back the same week. Anything over 15 mins I book, unless I finished an hour early the day before. Most posties go on a swings and roundabouts basis. However as there’s no policy for banking hours in place then you can book every minute you work over. However, you don’t have to come in early and you don’t have to work over. There’s plenty info on the cutting off procedure on this forum, if your a new start then I’d try being a little flexible with your hours until your through the 6 month trial, but only if your able. Also, your entitled to 30 mins rest break for working more than 5 hours, 40 mins for 7 hours, 50 mins for 9 hours. This can be split and some offices take part of their break at the end of the day. You’ll need to ask someone in your office about when breaks are taken.

Hope this helps.

Thanks that does really help to know, was wondering about the whole trial thing because i am permanent.. but i suppose i need to actually be good at it for them to want to keep me! Asked someone who i work with today & they say anything over half an hour they book... I'm sure i will know everything better in a few more weeks. I'm still fairly new so i'm bound to still be picking things up. Abit cruel starting me a week before christmas :crazy: :left:
You should book any amount of O/T you work - let's say you don't book 15 mins - if you work 48 weeks a year and you don't book 15 mins per week, that's 12 hours
of OT you've not booked - approx 120 quid plus and no pension contributions on that work!! Also those hours are hours saved off the DOM's budget (more bonus for
him/her) and less paid hours for the office. :arrrghhh :arrrghhh

You will also hear about WTLL - which is supposed to be compulsory in every office (30 mins per week apart from Xmas pressure). A lot of the time this does not happen and is time misused for delivery (again time saved off the office hours!), but many posties are apparently willing to give management freebie OT!!
Spedley
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

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aiden01 wrote:
Spedley wrote:I went 10 minutes over on Saturday so I booked 15 minutes (time and a half).
Thats fraud
Not if you OK it first.
aiden01
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What is the minimum amount of overtime you should book?

Post by aiden01 »

Spedley wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
Spedley wrote:I went 10 minutes over on Saturday so I booked 15 minutes (time and a half).
Thats fraud
Not if you OK it first.
Good for you then but you didnt say that in your post. :thumbup