Opg taking his own car up to delivery

[postslippete]

I remember when some of us used our cars for deliveries years ago and we had to get the appropriate business class 1 insurance for it. Royal Mail only changed the rules regarding using cars to physically deliver the mail; if the op is only driving out to meet the driver, where is the issue? I know of many posties who get dropped off when they finish instead of travelling back to the depot with their partner, because it suits them, and Royal Mail don't have a problem with that.

Every so often you read of strange practices that go on within RM, but that one is a real eye opener!

How is that even possible? So 1 person is sitting in their house with their feet up well before their finish time whilst their partner drives the van with un delivered items and empty mail bags and PDA's and collections etc back to the office to unload and sign them both out? Madness.

There are a few posties that I know that do this and have been doing it for years. As a Royal Mail driver it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if the managers suddenly decided to ban posties from going home until they have signed out. However, I've often worked with a postie who wants dropping off instead of going back to the office and I'm more than happy to oblige as long as I finish on time!

And secondly, will clocking off work actually change anything anyway? I mean whats to stop the colleague that they are working with clocking their card out for them?

[Marshamp11]

I remember when some of us used our cars for deliveries years ago and we had to get the appropriate business class 1 insurance for it. Royal Mail only changed the rules regarding using cars to physically deliver the mail; if the op is only driving out to meet the driver, where is the issue? I know of many posties who get dropped off when they finish instead of travelling back to the depot with their partner, because it suits them, and Royal Mail don't have a problem with that.

Every so often you read of strange practices that go on within RM, but that one is a real eye opener!

How is that even possible? So 1 person is sitting in their house with their feet up well before their finish time whilst their partner drives the van with un delivered items and empty mail bags and PDA's and collections etc back to the office to unload and sign them both out? Madness.

There are a few posties that I know that do this and have been doing it for years. As a Royal Mail driver it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if the managers suddenly decided to ban posties from going home until they have signed out. However, I've often worked with a postie who wants dropping off instead of going back to the office and I'm more than happy to oblige as long as I finish on time!

And secondly, will clocking off work actually change anything anyway? I mean whats to stop the colleague that they are working with clocking their card out for them?

Previous jobs that I had in the past gave out instant dismissal for clocking anybody in or out.

[postslippete]

Fair enough then. I bet it wouldn't be an instant dismissal for those numpties who get in early and then clock in when they are supposed to start though.

[maisymoo04]

god I remember years ago when we had the 2nd delivery used to go back out in me car at 1130 and go around delivering it only had a bundle of mailsort mainly and kept stopping starting all time

[GT750rider]

If and when clocking-in machines come in they'll probably read thumb / fingerprints .
That's what progressive companies are using these days.
So no clocking out for your buddy who's gone home !

[themailman]

If and when clocking-in machines come in they'll probably read thumb / fingerprints .
That's what progressive companies are using these days.
So no clocking out for your buddy who's gone home !

Every single 'advancement' that RM have made over the years has either not come to fruition or there has been ways round it. Nothing suggests to me that won't be the case with PDA actuals and clocking in/out.

[Woody Guthrie]

If and when clocking-in machines come in they'll probably read thumb / fingerprints .
That's what progressive companies are using these days.

It's unlikely for a few reasons.

1) It's more expensive and at the moment the technology is less reliable than a swipe card.

2) Under GDPR biometrics is a "special category" which means tougher regulation on consent, control and disposal of data.

3) As most banks are moving towards finger scanning technology the perception (not necessarily true) amongst staff is that you would effectively be giving the same information to your employer that you would use to access your bank account. You wouldn't give your DOM your four digit pin code would you?

4) All previous experience would point to Royal Mail procurement spending £300 million on a system that only read the third toe of your left foot.

As for your assertion that this is what progressive companies are doing, define progressive.
I can't really see anything in it for employees.