Do you bargain with your DOM with regards to OT pay?

LaggyBand · Post by **LaggyBand** » 09 Dec 2018, 22:10

Postie45 wrote:
LaggyBand wrote:It’s called ghost docket. It’s meant to be dead. It ain’t. PDA tracking and integration with pay systems may end it for good.
at the end of the day the DOM wants the office clear as a priority if it means paying someone an extra hour or 2 hes probably going to do it, he knows the person wont take that long to do it so PDA data wont be an issue as theres no one there to flag it. I dont see it as bribery by the postman asking for it either, hes just setting his own price for what he values his time is worth.

Oh I understand, I just wonder how long it will be until the PDA is used to sign on and off, and the pay system draws from that data to pay the overtime; ie no 552 and no human manually inputting what you haggled.

DGH · Post by **DGH** » 10 Dec 2018, 16:59

LaggyBand wrote: I just wonder how long it will be until the PDA is used to sign on and off, and the pay system draws from that data to pay the overtime; ie no 552 and no human manually inputting what you haggled.

Next pay deal. Sooner of Back gets his teeth into things.

Interested-seeker · Post by **Interested-seeker** » 10 Dec 2018, 18:13

No, I have never done this and never will. It isn't right.

Interested-seeker · Post by **Interested-seeker** » 10 Dec 2018, 18:17

number one wrote:Yep I haggle all the time with my overtime. Depending how desperate the DOM is then you can earn good money. In the past I’ve had 4hrs for a row and 5hrs for a york of packets. Currently getty30-40 hours a weeks overtime. Even in the quiet summer months I never get less than 25hrs OT. There’s some days I finish at 15:00 but getting paid till 21:00

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 10 Dec 2018, 18:19

Personally I would rather have an intelligent automatic logging in & out system so every minute I work is paid for. It would remove all the emotion and stress out of the system and be much 'fairer'. I dislike that 'f' word but I'll use it here.

Interested-seeker · Post by **Interested-seeker** » 10 Dec 2018, 18:23

Celgar wrote:Personally I would rather have an intelligent automatic logging in & out system so every minute I work is paid for. It would remove all the emotion and stress out of the system and be much 'fairer'. I dislike that 'f' word but I'll use it here.

number one · Post by **number one** » 10 Dec 2018, 18:35

Isn’t it funny that the people who refuse to do overtime are the ones that moan the most about people doing overtime. If they do bring this automated PDA hour thing in then lets hope they also use it to monitor lazy slow posties who drag their feet all day. If they are not up to speed then they will be out of a job

jd9442 · Post by **jd9442** » 10 Dec 2018, 19:00

I can do 7 bags and finish in time if not using a trolley.

If I use a trolley I can do 5.

7 bags is the full duty

Am I a lazy postman

Should I be able to say ‘sure I’ll take those 2 extra bags, pay me 5 hours’

number one · Post by **number one** » 10 Dec 2018, 19:04

jd9442 wrote:I can do 7 bags and finish in time if not using a trolley.

If I use a trolley I can do 5.

7 bags is the full duty

Am I a lazy postman

Should I be able to say ‘sure I’ll take those 2 extra bags, pay me 5 hours’

Did I call YOU lazy? Are you saying that there isn’t any posties that are lazy?

jd9442 · Post by **jd9442** » 10 Dec 2018, 19:06

I reckon these lazy posties don’t use trolleys though.

number one · Post by **number one** » 10 Dec 2018, 19:10

jd9442 wrote:I reckon these lazy posties don’t use trolleys though.

Eh?

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 10 Dec 2018, 20:51

jd9442 wrote:I reckon these lazy posties don’t use trolleys though.

To be fair, there's early starting, non break having, no trolley using, doorstepping posties in my office who still manage to be completely useless. There's people working to rule who do the duties quicker than they do.