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Ballot papers timetable!!!

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We can now confirm the Ballot timetable for the
proposed agreement is as follows:

Ballot papers to be dispatched from Friday 9th November.
Ballot closes on Tuesday 27th November.

In setting out this timetable, the Union has had to take into account
the current backlog of mail that is still affecting some areas of the
country.
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Post by davidessex »

they should use a courier then. this timetable is a collusion between cwu/pec and rm to avoid ia over xmas.
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Post by crocodillapig »

what are the odds on the ballot being inconclusive and having to reballot after xmas. (hmmmm i wonder)
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The CWU leadership want us to vote Yes to this agreement.

Royal Mail want us to vote Yes to this agreement.

It's looking increasing likely that the CWU have dragged their heels in putting this to the membership, perhaps hoping people will run scared of voting No because that could bring the prospect of strike action just 3 weeks before Christmas.

What other explanation can there be for a ballot not being concluded until Tuesday 27th November, more than a month after the PEC ratified the agreement (on Monday 22nd October) and some 46 days since RM agreed the deal with Billy and Dave on 12th October ??? I smell a stitch-up here, folks.

In my opinion, we should have had a two-week ballot, sent out on Tuesday 23rd October, concluded on 6th November, i.e. tomorrow. Had we done so, a No vote and the requisite 7 days notice to RM could have had us on rolling strikes as early as Tuesday next week, putting pressure on RM. I fear sufficient people will now vote Yes just to avoid being on strike in December (27th Nov + 7 days notice = 4th December) that this agreement will end up being accepted :hmmmm :arrrghhh
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Carnoustie wrote:The CWU leadership want us to vote Yes to this agreement.

Royal Mail want us to vote Yes to this agreement.

It's looking increasing likely that the CWU have dragged their heels in putting this to the membership, perhaps hoping people will run scared of voting No because that could bring the prospect of strike action just 3 weeks before Christmas.

What other explanation can there be for a ballot not being concluded until Tuesday 27th November, more than a month after the PEC ratified the agreement (on Monday 22nd October) and some 46 days since RM agreed the deal with Billy and Dave on 12th October ??? I smell a stitch-up here, folks.

In my opinion, we should have had a two-week ballot, sent out on Tuesday 23rd October, concluded on 6th November, i.e. tomorrow. Had we done so, a No vote and the requisite 7 days notice to RM could have had us on rolling strikes as early as Tuesday next week, putting pressure on RM. I fear sufficient people will now vote Yes just to avoid being on strike in December (27th Nov + 7 days notice = 4th December) that this agreement will end up being accepted :hmmmm :arrrghhh
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A concise and logical explanation of your thoughts but regardless I'm still voting feckin' NO when my ballot paper finally arrives.
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Post by protect us »

:no no its still a NO NO NO
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Post by the beautiful bd south »

As we haven't taken industrial action for over 4 weeks
will we have to be re-balloted for strike action?????

If so I am sure the union will spin out that ballot so the results arrive after christmas
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crocodillapig wrote:what are the odds on the ballot being inconclusive and having to reballot after xmas. (hmmmm i wonder)
None. Whether its a Yes or No vote with a majority of 1 - it carries.
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does anyone know when result will be announced ?. if it's a no vote we'd probably have to re-ballot for i.a. which would take us well past xmas. biggest stitch up ever if you ask me. :sad: :mad
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postie28 wrote:does anyone know when result will be announced ?. if it's a no vote we'd probably have to re-ballot for i.a. which would take us well past xmas. biggest stitch up ever if you ask me. :sad: :mad
http://www.cwu.org.uk/news.asp?step=3&NID=1868

But all it says is:
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05 November 2007
CWU BALLOT TIMETABLE FOR AGREEMENT


CWU can now confirm the ballot timetable for the proposed agreement with Royal Mail on pay and modernisation is as follows:

Ballot papers to be dispatched from Friday 9th November.

Ballot closes on Tuesday 27th November.

In setting out this timetable, the union has had to take into account the current backlog of mail that is still affecting some areas of the country. This is a one member one vote ballot. This ballot does not cover pensions which will be dealt with in a separate consultation and ballot.

The result of the ballot will be announced as soon as possible.
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The result of the ballot will be announced as soon as possible
What,they can't give a f***ing date ffs!!!!
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Post by PostfromNotts »

What a shambles of a union we have!!

I hope they read this and feel very very ashamed of themselves.
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Post by montana banana »

why not get the office reps to carry out an in house ballot
and then get tghem to return the results to local h q s and then forward to
head opffice ?? we then know everyone has had a vote and none can go missing
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montana banana wrote:why not get the office reps to carry out an in house ballot
and then get tghem to return the results to local h q s and then forward to
head opffice ?? we then know everyone has had a vote and none can go missing
Under Thatcher's trade union reforms, this would be illegal.

A proper postal ballot has to be carried out. Oh, and in case people were in any doubt, I'm voting NO. The reason I was moaning about the delay in getting the ballot papers out is precisely because I believe it's designed to lessen the likelihood of a No vote, because the short-sighted people will only think about the impact of striking before Christmas, and vote Yes to a bad deal :arrrghhh
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IF ITS A YES VOTE PULL THE PLUG ON THE CWU ITS EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF.SAVE YOUR MONEY AND USE IT IN A BETTER WAY, ILL LEAVE YOU TO DECIDE , ALL I CAN SAY IS RULE BRITANIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!