LAT product

[SpacePhoenix]

But the extras may not have been LAT - but padding for the duty from the DOM.

I can't see that going down to well, why should one company pay out however much extra they get charged per LAT item whilst another effectively gets it for free?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

But the extras may not have been LAT - but padding for the duty from the DOM.

I can't see that going down to well, why should one company pay out however much extra they get charged per LAT item whilst another effectively gets it for free?

They aren't.

The LATs are being treated separately until they get to the DOs.

At the DOs there isn't enough work to justify the cost to only do LATs, so the Managers add normal parcels that have probably been in the system 24 - 48 hours already. At a guess, it's either from duties that have cut off, late miss sorts and excessively large packets that the CDVs can't load, and no doubt other myriad reasons why they haven't connected with the CDV pairing.

[Martin Walsh]

Remember the new LAT product allows for the customer to put into Royal Mail’s RDC up to 12:30 at night and NDC up to 02:00. Therefore anyone ordering off the internet can get delivery the next day.

This is completely new in Royal Mail. Hence why they want to iron out any problems in the pipeline or resourcing before they take on further customers in October. It is called a loss leader and there is only one customer.

Of course some have resourced from 15:00 to 19::00 to deliver LAT and some hubs do not receive any work.This is why some of these duties are given other work to pad out the duty.

The good thing is quality is high and a number of big customers are intrested and hopefully will come on board from October.

[A2B]

With the figures quoted of LAT so far i'd hope the quality is high

[postslippete]

I think its great that Royal Mail are offering customers this service and for workers who don't mind working the extra overtime. Will there also be a paid manager in the office to ensure that staff are working the hours (no ghosting) or will they use the PDA data?

[SpacePhoenix]

At the DOs there isn't enough work to justify the cost to only do LATs, so the Managers add normal parcels that have probably been in the system 24 - 48 hours already. At a guess, it's either from duties that have cut off, late miss sorts and excessively large packets that the CDVs can't load, and no doubt other myriad reasons why they haven't connected with the CDV pairing.

There'll be plenty of late packets (normal and Tracked that they could send them out with once the autumn pressure starts and night shifts in MCs start having large failures every night

[A2B]

At the DOs there isn't enough work to justify the cost to only do LATs, so the Managers add normal parcels that have probably been in the system 24 - 48 hours already. At a guess, it's either from duties that have cut off, late miss sorts and excessively large packets that the CDVs can't load, and no doubt other myriad reasons why they haven't connected with the CDV pairing.

There'll be plenty of late packets (normal and Tracked that they could send them out with once the autumn pressure starts and night shifts in MCs start having large failures every night

That's good news, more hours into delivery the better

[SpacePhoenix]

At the DOs there isn't enough work to justify the cost to only do LATs, so the Managers add normal parcels that have probably been in the system 24 - 48 hours already. At a guess, it's either from duties that have cut off, late miss sorts and excessively large packets that the CDVs can't load, and no doubt other myriad reasons why they haven't connected with the CDV pairing.

There'll be plenty of late packets (normal and Tracked that they could send them out with once the autumn pressure starts and night shifts in MCs start having large failures every night

That's good news, more hours into delivery the better

At some point your "last" lorry from your local DO will eventually become either your "early" or your "first" lorry

[A2B]

Are you fishing for a reaction? At some point i'll stop breathing but i won't waste time worrying about it

I've seen on here that my office will start later, i'm already looking forward to staying in my bed a bit longer

[mickeymacca]

At the DOs there isn't enough work to justify the cost to only do LATs, so the Managers add normal parcels that have probably been in the system 24 - 48 hours already. At a guess, it's either from duties that have cut off, late miss sorts and excessively large packets that the CDVs can't load, and no doubt other myriad reasons why they haven't connected with the CDV pairing.

There'll be plenty of late packets (normal and Tracked that they could send them out with once the autumn pressure starts and night shifts in MCs start having large failures every night

That's good news, more hours into delivery the better

At some point your "last" lorry from your local DO will eventually become either your "early" or your "first" lorry

do you think that point will be before Xmas??

[citypostie]

Are you fishing for a reaction? At some point i'll stop breathing but i won't waste time worrying about it

I've seen on here that my office will start later, i'm already looking forward to staying in my bed a bit longer

Of course he is, he says this all the time because he knows most postie's are dead set against later starts. The cwu know this and that's why they fought royal mail over the times they wanted, they are now having to get staff who are willing to work until 7pm to deliver the lat product not forcing us all to work later to make sure they get delivered. If push comes to shove and it's a choice between changing the working times and practices in mail centres or forcing postie's to work 10 - 6 with the uproar and mass resignation from the union it would result in who are the cwu going to side with? The majority of members who are in delivery or MC workers

[SpacePhoenix]

Are you fishing for a reaction? At some point i'll stop breathing but i won't waste time worrying about it

I've seen on here that my office will start later, i'm already looking forward to staying in my bed a bit longer

Of course he is, he says this all the time because he knows most postie's are dead set against later starts. The cwu know this and that's why they fought royal mail over the times they wanted, they are now having to get staff who are willing to work until 7pm to deliver the lat product not forcing us all to work later to make sure they get delivered. If push comes to shove and it's a choice between changing the working times and practices in mail centres or forcing postie's to work 10 - 6 with the uproar and mass resignation from the union it would result in who are the cwu going to side with? The majority of members who are in delivery or MC workers

The way it's going with Network 18, i's going to be BOTH DOs and MCs that have their start times pushed back. I'm afraid that we ALL need to get used to the idea of our start times being pushed back by 1 maybe 2 hours. For DOs with the latter lorries probably getting caught up in traffic, DO start times might get pushed back even later than that. Get used to the idea of 9-5 in DOs unless RM revert the changes introduced with Network 18 it WILL happen.

[A2B]

The way it's going with Network 18, i's going to be BOTH DOs and MCs that have their start times pushed back. I'm afraid that we ALL need to get used to the idea of our start times being pushed back by 1 maybe 2 hours. For DOs with the latter lorries probably getting caught up in traffic, DO start times might get pushed back even later than that. Get used to the idea of 9-5 in DOs unless RM revert the changes introduced with Network 18 it WILL happen.

And thus the prophet SpacePhoenix has spoken, with capitals and bold lettering so take heed !

[SpacePhoenix]

The way it's going with Network 18, i's going to be BOTH DOs and MCs that have their start times pushed back. I'm afraid that we ALL need to get used to the idea of our start times being pushed back by 1 maybe 2 hours. For DOs with the latter lorries probably getting caught up in traffic, DO start times might get pushed back even later than that. Get used to the idea of 9-5 in DOs unless RM revert the changes introduced with Network 18 it WILL happen.

And thus the prophet SpacePhoenix has spoken, with capitals and bold lettering so take heed !

There's a lot of forum members who are just burying their heads in the sand and hoping that Network 18 isn't going to result in their start times being pushed back. Sorry, it aint going to happen, our start times WILL be pushed back

[A2B]

We already know that our start times are moving later, the SWW will cause part of it, but didn't we reach an agreement where no delivery office will start more than 30mins later than it currently does?

Nobody is burying their heads in the sand but lets deal with what we have at the moment, who know's RM may cease to exist in 3/4 years with all the problems Network 18 is bringing to us