PDA data being checked by manager's

panch1989 · Post by **panch1989** » 07 Jul 2018, 12:40

If you're finished early then you need more loops. If you're claiming legit overtime you need less loops. PDA actuals will eventually get this sorted. Come in on time. Do your job properly and you've got nothing to worry about. If you're against this then you obviously have an easy life at the moment and don't want to work to rule.

LaggyBand · Post by **LaggyBand** » 07 Jul 2018, 14:49

Despite the “PDA Actuals are in” brief, we had senior folk on cushy rounds finishing 90mins early today for the football.

Same time we got new starts on rough routes battling with gaffers over 30mins booking of actual docket.

Never before have I seen a manoeuvre by RM that look set to tackle that. Gonna be fun.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 07 Jul 2018, 16:21

MAILMAN84 wrote:Can confirm but it's more devious than that. Posties are being pulled in and being told theyve failed test letters etc and not delivering mail but cant be suspended cuz theres "no proof". They're illegally using the data. Disgusting.

Test letters are different and not connected to PDA actual data. But if the two were combined and the test letter wasn't delivered you would be in some trouble. The data isn't supposed to be used on an individual basis but there is a question whether it cannot be used that way. I think management higher than DOMs will be used to do it.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 07 Jul 2018, 16:34

terry2972 wrote:Another thing with pda actuals if you get back early and bring back tracked items without trying a neighbour they will know also I think the days of taking short cuts could be coming to an end because if you finish early on a regular basis you will end up with more work

I know it's a pain but we all have to have the PDA with us walking up to every letterbox or delivery point. The data is being collected now so it needs to correct. If the PDA is in the van and you are walking about delivering to a load of houses that work will not be registered. If they act on that data at a later date you could end up with more work added to your walk when it shouldn't be.

frankieboy · Post by **frankieboy** » 07 Jul 2018, 19:25

Celgar wrote:
terry2972 wrote:Another thing with pda actuals if you get back early and bring back tracked items without trying a neighbour they will know also I think the days of taking short cuts could be coming to an end because if you finish early on a regular basis you will end up with more work
I know it's a pain but we all have to have the PDA with us walking up to every letterbox or delivery point. The data is being collected now so it needs to correct. If the PDA is in the van and you are walking about delivering to a load of houses that work will not be registered. If they act on that data at a later date you could end up with more work added to your walk when it shouldn't be.

Maybe they should just fit all posties with an ankle tag or better still a FaceTime body cam, problem solved.

wgbunter · Post by **wgbunter** » 08 Jul 2018, 20:30

The majority took the money and this is the deal tough times.

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 08 Jul 2018, 20:44

Bahia Feliz wrote:Basically we have had colleagues already being challenged about what time they have returned to office etc by managers using the pda 'actual' data,be warned!!

did he finish early ? or go over his finish time ?

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 08 Jul 2018, 20:46

centenaryman wrote:were checked daily...have been since the trials as well....been quite a few lads pulled in,,,,take a rep in but theres not much he can do when its in black and white in front of you

for finishing early ?

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 08 Jul 2018, 22:32

wgbunter wrote:The majority took the money and this is the deal tough times.

A majority vote off a low turnout which doesn't include Postie's who were not members of the CWU. It could be argued that the result was unrepresentative of the workforce.

smok3y666 · Post by **smok3y666** » 08 Jul 2018, 23:18

Bahia Feliz wrote:Basically we have had colleagues already being challenged about what time they have returned to office etc by managers using the pda 'actual' data,be warned!!

So don't f**k about and you got nothing to worry about. What's the problem?

Bahia Feliz · Post by **Bahia Feliz** » 09 Jul 2018, 14:06

worktotime wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:Basically we have had colleagues already being challenged about what time they have returned to office etc by managers using the pda 'actual' data,be warned!!
did he finish early ? or go over his finish time ?

Got back to office at 2pm booked off at 3pm (booked 20 mins ext del)

Bahia Feliz · Post by **Bahia Feliz** » 09 Jul 2018, 14:07

smok3y666 wrote:
Bahia Feliz wrote:Basically we have had colleagues already being challenged about what time they have returned to office etc by managers using the pda 'actual' data,be warned!!
So don't f**k about and you got nothing to worry about. What's the problem?

No probs if you do the job properly as you say.

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 09 Jul 2018, 15:04

Bahia Feliz wrote: One colleague booked 20 mins extended yesterday from 14.40 till 15.00,this morning a manager said they had got back at 2pm according to the pda!

good

Newbie001 · Post by **Newbie001** » 09 Jul 2018, 17:59

Lots of postie's at ours I've noticed log off as soon as they've posted last letter, some as soon as they get back to office. And almost all of the office take 20 mins at end. Wonder what the data would say about this. Interesting times ahead.

Post by **97gaz** » 09 Jul 2018, 19:39