Leave Slots no more school holiday slots left can I apply for unpaid leave

Driver74 · Post by **Driver74** » 21 Feb 2018, 19:25

You are wrong about can’t be paid it doesn’t happen where I work but it does in some delivery offices a good friend of mine works nights on the css machines when he’s on leave he regularly gets a call to go in on ot when someone is sick and he definitely gets paid

GRS · Post by **GRS** » 21 Feb 2018, 19:48

It can’t be paid. If it is it’s wrong and is fraud as you are being paid twice. It does go on but managers have to hide the payments (maybe over a few weeks) as the system doesn’t allow it.

Xr4 · Post by **Xr4** » 21 Feb 2018, 20:19

I've done it once, worked 5 days whilst being off. The office was in the poo and they begged me to work it. Didn't know it wasn't allowed tho! Although my kid did get really spoilt the next week lol

I do know I'm allowed to work 2 days when I'm on leave tho as I'm contracted to 24hrs over 4 days, so I'm working my days off

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 21 Feb 2018, 22:49

Driver74 wrote:You are wrong about can’t be paid it doesn’t happen where I work but it does in some delivery offices a good friend of mine works nights on the css machines when he’s on leave he regularly gets a call to go in on ot when someone is sick and he definitely gets paid

I'm not wrong. If it is happening anywhere then the manager concerned is breaking the rules.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 22 Feb 2018, 14:32

Celgar wrote:
Driver74 wrote:You are wrong about can’t be paid it doesn’t happen where I work but it does in some delivery offices a good friend of mine works nights on the css machines when he’s on leave he regularly gets a call to go in on ot when someone is sick and he definitely gets paid
I'm not wrong. If it is happening anywhere then the manager concerned is breaking the rules.

Law, not rules, Law.

You cannot be on leave and working at the same time.

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/legal ... n-holiday/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Legal risks to the employer

It is not possible for employees to contract out of their statutory holiday entitlement. Therefore, there is a risk, although as yet untested, that if workers are required or pressurised to work while on holiday they could bring a claim that their employer refused to permit them to take their statutory holiday entitlement in breach of the Working Time Regulations.

http://www.xperthr.co.uk/faq/can-employ ... ave/88802/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Employers must ensure that employees are able to take the minimum statutory annual leave entitlement under the Working Time Regulations 1998 (SI 1998/1833).

So not a "should" but a "must", so if you work during your statutory leave (which is most of our basic annual entitlement) and the managers know this, then they are potentially breaking the law. But then as Royal Mail don't train managers. or least don't appear to, in basic employment law, it will get brushed under the carpet till someone is caught.

Driver74 · Post by **Driver74** » 22 Feb 2018, 15:31

I didn’t say the official rules allow it all I was saying is that it definitely does happen in some delivery offices when they are pushed for staff

Post by **rambo1** » 23 Feb 2018, 14:54

Why do people with kids think they should get special treatment? It's your choice to have kids is it not.

Post by **greengiant** » 23 Feb 2018, 16:00

To the op, ask to see if any colleagues are looking to swap leave? You may find there are people who would rather take holidays out with the school holiday period?

Your late today · Post by **Your late today** » 23 Feb 2018, 17:06

rambo1 wrote:Why do people with kids think they should get special treatment? It's your choice to have kids is it not.

Exactly some people have partners that work in schools but have no children or grown up children who want school holidays.

joewyan · Post by **joewyan** » 23 Feb 2018, 19:59

rambo1 wrote:Why do people with kids think they should get special treatment? It's your choice to have kids is it not.

Well said! We all have equal rights to time off, just because people choose to have a child doesn’t give them the right to dictate holidays

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 23 Feb 2018, 20:04

joewyan wrote:
rambo1 wrote:Why do people with kids think they should get special treatment? It's your choice to have kids is it not.
Well said! We all have equal rights to time off, just because people choose to have a child doesn’t give them the right to dictate holidays

I know. It is like those people who need time off to look after elderly relatives.
Nobody asked them not to die at a respectable age.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 23 Feb 2018, 22:26

To the OP and tbf anyone else who wants a chat, are there any extra leave slots due to summer lapsing.

joewyan · Post by **joewyan** » 23 Feb 2018, 23:21

clashcityrocker wrote:
joewyan wrote:
rambo1 wrote:Why do people with kids think they should get special treatment? It's your choice to have kids is it not.
Well said! We all have equal rights to time off, just because people choose to have a child doesn’t give them the right to dictate holidays
I know. It is like those people who need time off to look after elderly relatives.
Nobody asked them not to die at a respectable age.

Somehow I think this is a little different. I’m not denying anyone time off, and obviously parents are still able to have time off if their children are sick etc. However why they think they should have all the school holidays because they have children is not right. The OP has 3 weeks in school holidays, that’s 3 more than me.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 24 Feb 2018, 13:58

To be fair to the OP he hasn't asked to be treated as a special case, all he was doing is asking what his options are.