shorter working week

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 01 Feb 2018, 22:37

RM runs on unpaid work/slave labour. It has done for as long as I can remember.

Post by **rambo1** » 02 Feb 2018, 07:40

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
HirstyUK wrote:What sort of information? We're aware of them tracking our walking speed, location etc, anything else?
Time starting, time finishing, type of outdoor work, type of indoor work (though with location by GPS and 4G they know now anyway).

To log a starting time someone is gonna have to get there early to put everyone's PDA into their frames so the first job we do is log on. Then do we all hand them back to the locker to be put on charge till we go out on delivery? It'll be mayhem!

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 02 Feb 2018, 08:19

rambo1 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
HirstyUK wrote:What sort of information? We're aware of them tracking our walking speed, location etc, anything else?
Time starting, time finishing, type of outdoor work, type of indoor work (though with location by GPS and 4G they know now anyway).
To log a starting time someone is gonna have to get there early to put everyone's PDA into their frames so the first job we do is log on. Then do we all hand them back to the locker to be put on charge till we go out on delivery? It'll be mayhem!

Nope. They just need to have you log-in with the PDA still in the cradle, use a finger scanner (paired up with a PDA) and scan any barcodes. The finger scanners would just be used with the PDAs for the indoor stuff

Xr4 · Post by **Xr4** » 02 Feb 2018, 09:44

SpacePhoenix wrote:
rambo1 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
HirstyUK wrote:What sort of information? We're aware of them tracking our walking speed, location etc, anything else?
Time starting, time finishing, type of outdoor work, type of indoor work (though with location by GPS and 4G they know now anyway).
To log a starting time someone is gonna have to get there early to put everyone's PDA into their frames so the first job we do is log on. Then do we all hand them back to the locker to be put on charge till we go out on delivery? It'll be mayhem!
Nope. They just need to have you log-in with the PDA still in the cradle, use a finger scanner (paired up with a PDA) and scan any barcodes. The finger scanners would just be used with the PDAs for the indoor stuff

There's a fix for this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11 ... ereabouts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 02 Feb 2018, 14:40

Xr4 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
rambo1 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
HirstyUK wrote:What sort of information? We're aware of them tracking our walking speed, location etc, anything else?
Time starting, time finishing, type of outdoor work, type of indoor work (though with location by GPS and 4G they know now anyway).
To log a starting time someone is gonna have to get there early to put everyone's PDA into their frames so the first job we do is log on. Then do we all hand them back to the locker to be put on charge till we go out on delivery? It'll be mayhem!
Nope. They just need to have you log-in with the PDA still in the cradle, use a finger scanner (paired up with a PDA) and scan any barcodes. The finger scanners would just be used with the PDAs for the indoor stuff
There's a fix for this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11 ... ereabouts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

why would anybody want to hide what they are doing inside or out ? I'm all for it if your duty is to big so let them see it , happy days

, and if people want to start early and not take breaks or use the methods to get finished before there time then this should put a stop to it , and about time

nuns · Post by **nuns** » 02 Feb 2018, 14:44

i reckon instead of going on strike ,,, union should call for work your proper hours for a week no going over

Post by **eastie** » 02 Feb 2018, 14:46

What about when the office is shut when the DOM goes home , we usually take the battery out and leave them in the van

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 02 Feb 2018, 15:39

nuns wrote:i reckon instead of going on strike ,,, union should call for work your proper hours for a week no going over

That would require a ballot for "Other Industrial Action not including a strike", and why would they ballot for something they already recommend.

Interested-seeker · Post by **Interested-seeker** » 02 Feb 2018, 16:48

worktotime wrote:
Xr4 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
rambo1 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
HirstyUK wrote:What sort of information? We're aware of them tracking our walking speed, location etc, anything else?
Time starting, time finishing, type of outdoor work, type of indoor work (though with location by GPS and 4G they know now anyway).
To log a starting time someone is gonna have to get there early to put everyone's PDA into their frames so the first job we do is log on. Then do we all hand them back to the locker to be put on charge till we go out on delivery? It'll be mayhem!
Nope. They just need to have you log-in with the PDA still in the cradle, use a finger scanner (paired up with a PDA) and scan any barcodes. The finger scanners would just be used with the PDAs for the indoor stuff
There's a fix for this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11 ... ereabouts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
why would anybody want to hide what they are doing inside or out ? I'm all for it if your duty is to big so let them see it , happy days , and if people want to start early and not take breaks or use the methods to get finished before there time then this should put a stop to it , and about time

Agreed

superports · Post by **superports** » 02 Feb 2018, 18:40

Our line manager has more or less said a hour less per week will in reality mean starting 12 minutes later each day but still with the same workload.
On what planet is this even acceptable? How can the union even contemplate this? Bullying and harassment will go through the roof.
And yes, before anyone says "we have a finish time", I know that, but some managers do not take no for an answer and will lie, cheat and do anything to drop anyone that stands up for themselves in it.

Post by **eastie** » 02 Feb 2018, 18:47

My DOM said we would start 30 mins later on Tuesday and Saturday.
RM have cancelled our early delivery anyway on these days due to driver shortages so wont make any difference but I will still cut off at my finish time