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CPTNemoUK
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My day off cover never does the d2d's. My day off not my problem so what ever left at the end of the week is management problem not mine.
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clashcityrocker
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I sometimes wonder what you lot are like when you go out for a meal?CPTNemoUK wrote:My day off cover never does the d2d's. My day off not my problem so what ever left at the end of the week is management problem not mine.
You order steak and chips and they bring you mince and mashed potato, Same thing isn't it?
Or there are no chips on your plate because it is someone's day off. You'd just pay for it anyway?
The customer has paid for the design and the printing and the delivery of the leaflets.
If it doesn't get done then they should be reimbursed. Why should they pay for a service they aren't receiving?
Failure of D2D is wilful delay. Staff, managers, whoever should be getting their P45 if they are failing.
Would the same - it's not my problem - attitude apply to other streams of mail?
D2D went into workload over 7 years ago.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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POSTMAN
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And these f***ing office still do not know how to handle them, unreal!D2D went into workload over 7 years ago.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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toomuchcoke
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Pretty much! Though for the rurals I cover it's generally a quarter of the D2Ds each morning as there's only 4 columns on the frame. One of the frames has red dots on some of the address points (about 10 of them IIRC) in columns 2-4 and we throw them in Monday and take them when/if we go to those addresses - no point driving 5 minutes there and 5 minutes back to farm with a D2D on Tuesday when you're likely to be going there at some point during the week with normal mail.WOBBLY wrote:I prep my 6th of door to doors every morning in RM time as they should be. The day off cover does his/her 6th on my day off. No-one is doing any work for free nor is anyone doing extra work they shouldn't be doing. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE :)
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Celgar
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I believe CPTNemoUK is saying that if another postie in his DO is not doing his/her job properly that is not the responsibility of CPTNemoUK. It is the responsibility of the DOM and, if there is one appointed, the office coach to sort out posties who are not doing the job properly.clashcityrocker wrote:I sometimes wonder what you lot are like when you go out for a meal?CPTNemoUK wrote:My day off cover never does the d2d's. My day off not my problem so what ever left at the end of the week is management problem not mine.
You order steak and chips and they bring you mince and mashed potato, Same thing isn't it?
Or there are no chips on your plate because it is someone's day off. You'd just pay for it anyway?
The customer has paid for the design and the printing and the delivery of the leaflets.
If it doesn't get done then they should be reimbursed. Why should they pay for a service they aren't receiving?
Failure of D2D is wilful delay. Staff, managers, whoever should be getting their P45 if they are failing.
Would the same - it's not my problem - attitude apply to other streams of mail?
D2D went into workload over 7 years ago.
The views I express here are mine alone and do not represent the views of Royal Mail Group.
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Stammerking
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Prepping 20% of D2ds each day and delivering all of them helps my cause when the lino comes round to check my call rate after I,ve told him I have no time for lapsing. No d2ds on a Saturdays I do a hybrid duty and no collection on Saturday and only 4.40 duty time 
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CPTNemoUK
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Thank you I always the d2d the days I'm in.Celgar wrote:I believe CPTNemoUK is saying that if another postie in his DO is not doing his/her job properly that is not the responsibility of CPTNemoUK. It is the responsibility of the DOM and, if there is one appointed, the office coach to sort out posties who are not doing the job properly.clashcityrocker wrote:I sometimes wonder what you lot are like when you go out for a meal?CPTNemoUK wrote:My day off cover never does the d2d's. My day off not my problem so what ever left at the end of the week is management problem not mine.
You order steak and chips and they bring you mince and mashed potato, Same thing isn't it?
Or there are no chips on your plate because it is someone's day off. You'd just pay for it anyway?
The customer has paid for the design and the printing and the delivery of the leaflets.
If it doesn't get done then they should be reimbursed. Why should they pay for a service they aren't receiving?
Failure of D2D is wilful delay. Staff, managers, whoever should be getting their P45 if they are failing.
Would the same - it's not my problem - attitude apply to other streams of mail?
D2D went into workload over 7 years ago.
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twoloops
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There is a postie in our office that takes all his D2D out on a Sunday takes him 5 hours of his own time ... Sad 
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CPTNemoUK
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Is he married?. If so he must be doing it to get away from is wifemattycash wrote:There is a postie in our office that takes all his D2D out on a Sunday takes him 5 hours of his own time ... Sad
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fishtank
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What happens with someone else is of no concern to you. Say some guy in the mailcentre can't be arsed sequencing your mail one day and the next day you come into twice the mail? Does it matter to you if the guy in the mailcentre gets the sack? Does it mean that you can refuse to touch half that mail? Can you walk away and say "it's not my problem".I believe CPTNemoUK is saying that if another postie in his DO is not doing his/her job properly that is not the responsibility of CPTNemoUK. It is the responsibility of the DOM and, if there is one appointed, the office coach to sort out posties who are not doing the job properly.
All you can do is prep that sequenced mail and if it causes overtime and you don't want it you can tell them you're finishing on your time. Now why do you think it should be any different with D2D?
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CPTNemoUK
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As long has I am doing MY job properly I ain't bothered. If my mail ain't sequenced I will be using the cutting off procedure. It is up to management to get It sorted. That means somebody gets sacked because they are not doing thier job properly so be it. That's thier problem not mine and I won't lose a minutes sleep over it.fishtank wrote:What happens with someone else is of no concern to you. Say some guy in the mailcentre can't be arsed sequencing your mail one day and the next day you come into twice the mail? Does it matter to you if the guy in the mailcentre gets the sack? Does it mean that you can refuse to touch half that mail? Can you walk away and say "it's not my problem".I believe CPTNemoUK is saying that if another postie in his DO is not doing his/her job properly that is not the responsibility of CPTNemoUK. It is the responsibility of the DOM and, if there is one appointed, the office coach to sort out posties who are not doing the job properly.
All you can do is prep that sequenced mail and if it causes overtime and you don't want it you can tell them you're finishing on your time. Now why do you think it should be any different with D2D?
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Postie45
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if they dont take their d2d, and you end up taking it, im sure itll cause some issue with your ability to complete.... the manager wouldnt be pleased if he had to arrange someone to complete your delivery that day, then just point them in the direction of where the problem lies in that the lazy git didnt take their allocation.
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clashcityrocker
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Where does it say it is your job to only do 1/6th of D2D per day?CPTNemoUK wrote: As long has I am doing MY job properly I ain't bothered.
The only concrete thing the D2D agreement says is they must be completed by the end of the week.
I wonder how your manager deals with the excess?
Personally I never leave D2D for my rest day cover. My job is easier than his. Why would I add to his workload?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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CPTNemoUK
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If management asked me to do them I would. If it means I would go over I will cut off simple. I have a start time and finish time. What ever they want me to do in that time (Work related lol) I will do it. They could ask me to stack the parcels into the shape of Pac man. If it's in my work time that's fine.clashcityrocker wrote:Where does it say it is your job to only do 1/6th of D2D per day?CPTNemoUK wrote: As long has I am doing MY job properly I ain't bothered.
The only concrete thing the D2D agreement says is they must be completed by the end of the week.
I wonder how your manager deals with the excess?
Personally I never leave D2D for my rest day cover. My job is easier than his. Why would I add to his workload?
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Postie45
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where does it say it ? no clue, but management have told us that we are to deliver a set row per day which is the standard in our office, i imagine its not the only one to adopt this system.clashcityrocker wrote:Where does it say it is your job to only do 1/6th of D2D per day?CPTNemoUK wrote: