Are D2D's optional?

[opgpat]

So to confirm - do we have to PREP them in our own time???
If only delivery is built into walk that would seem the case?

I prep mine in the afternoons in my own time (after finish time).

[wolfie citizen smith]

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steve1873

They were certainly optional for me today. Was FAR too busy to even look at them.

They can certainly haul me into the office at anytime, but the facts is I worked an hour and a quarter past my finish time without taking them and that was the maximum overtime I was willing to work. When it is extremely busy there just isn't enough time to prep them and I'm certainly not going to be doing them in my own time.

sorry fella but why are you not doing your D2D in your duty time and why are you not cutting off and bringing your work back?????

[steve1873]

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steve1873

They were certainly optional for me today. Was FAR too busy to even look at them.

They can certainly haul me into the office at anytime, but the facts is I worked an hour and a quarter past my finish time without taking them and that was the maximum overtime I was willing to work. When it is extremely busy there just isn't enough time to prep them and I'm certainly not going to be doing them in my own time.

sorry fella but why are you not doing your D2D in your duty time and why are you not cutting off and bringing your work back?????

I simply had no time to prep them this morning. As far as cutting off is concerned, I left 9 trays of mostly mailsort under my frame.

I could have taken stuff back to the office this aftenoon for my finishing time, but as I was quite happy to work an hour or so (maximum) overtime I was happy to work on to clear all of the 1st class (and DSA) and most of the 2nd class. I didn't box in a single mailsort letter or flat.

[steve1873]

So to confirm - do we have to PREP them in our own time???
If only delivery is built into walk that would seem the case?

I prep mine in the afternoons in my own time (after finish time).

No. You are paid for the delivery of them. The prep time is built into your duty time. Do not let anyone tell you otherwise.

If there isn't enough time on your duty then it is upto management to sort it.

[borderscot]

D2D are not mail you do not have built in time to prep them. you also have a finishing time if your manager won't let you prep them with your duty tell him you can't complete. Delivery of D2D is the DOM's responsibility

[majeed]

Incidentally, aren't you are supposed to deliver each one individually, i.e. not placing some inside others etc., where some may not be noticed and therefore lessen the anticipated advertisers audience!

Well, it certainly makes it easier for us to place them in the recycle bin, but ooh! mi back! pickin 'em up! Ooofff!

[majeed]

Mentioned this on another thread, but this happened at our office the dom seemed to think that as you get paid separately for d2d you do them in your own time i reminded him of the 20% rule and also stated that my time is just that MINE and if this was the way he wanted them delivering in the future i choose not to do them in my time , he very quickly moved away.
D2D are part of your workload dont let them tell you otherwise as even the posties that take d2d home are giving the company time.

This is slightly off-topic, but: so on a morning, when you're doing the IPS, do you collate your D2D's first, to ensure that you are getting your 20% a day in? And do you have to collate them at frame speed, i.e. on average, one complete collation of leaflets every two seconds (if that's the case, that's faster than any envelope stuffing I have ever heard of!)?

See this thread for sorting figures

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Mentioned this on another thread, but this happened at our office the dom seemed to think that as you get paid separately for d2d you do them in your own time i reminded him of the 20% rule and also stated that my time is just that MINE and if this was the way he wanted them delivering in the future i choose not to do them in my time , he very quickly moved away.
D2D are part of your workload dont let them tell you otherwise as even the posties that take d2d home are giving the company time.

This is slightly off-topic, but: so on a morning, when you're doing the IPS, do you collate your D2D's first, to ensure that you are getting your 20% a day in?

20% is usually about one row on your frame. Personally, I throw the mail in first, then a row of Door 2 Dustbin behind the mail. You'll find out the best way which suits you when you get going, but I find doing it that way better than throwing in the D2D first.

[postmanplod69]

i normally sit at my frame and put my door to doors behind each other after i have thrown my walk in,some people put d2ds in their frame but i preper to have say 25 put together and have them behind my bundle of mail depending of course on what type of d2ds they are,if we have letters with pens inside then more like 10 behind my bundle,

[majeed]

Door 2 Dustbin

But how do you remember which was the last house you put the D2D on your previous day's walk?

[robd]

Mentioned this on another thread, but this happened at our office the dom seemed to think that as you get paid separately for d2d you do them in your own time i reminded him of the 20% rule and also stated that my time is just that MINE and if this was the way he wanted them delivering in the future i choose not to do them in my time , he very quickly moved away.
D2D are part of your workload dont let them tell you otherwise as even the posties that take d2d home are giving the company time.

This is slightly off-topic, but: so on a morning, when you're doing the IPS, do you collate your D2D's first, to ensure that you are getting your 20% a day in? And do you have to collate them at frame speed, i.e. on average, one complete collation of leaflets every two seconds (if that's the case, that's faster than any envelope stuffing I have ever heard of!)?

See this thread for sorting figures

Sorry,but you've lost me?
what have D2D's got to do with the IPS?

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Door 2 Dustbin

But how do you remember which was the last house you put the D2D on your previous day's walk?

Supposing on Monday, you take the bottom row of the frame, then on Tuesday, the next row up and so on until you get to Friday. You'll soon see when you start work. It's not complicated at all.

[majeed]

Mentioned this on another thread, but this happened at our office the dom seemed to think that as you get paid separately for d2d you do them in your own time i reminded him of the 20% rule and also stated that my time is just that MINE and if this was the way he wanted them delivering in the future i choose not to do them in my time , he very quickly moved away.
D2D are part of your workload dont let them tell you otherwise as even the posties that take d2d home are giving the company time.

This is slightly off-topic, but: so on a morning, when you're doing the IPS, do you collate your D2D's first, to ensure that you are getting your 20% a day in? And do you have to collate them at frame speed, i.e. on average, one complete collation of leaflets every two seconds (if that's the case, that's faster than any envelope stuffing I have ever heard of!)?

See this thread for sorting figures

Sorry,but you've lost me?
what have D2D's got to do with the IPS?

They both produce mail which goes in your pouch.

[majeed]

Door 2 Dustbin

But how do you remember which was the last house you put the D2D on your previous day's walk?

Supposing on Monday, you take the bottom row of the frame, then on Tuesday, the next row up and so on until you get to Friday. You'll soon see when you start work. It's not complicated at all.

Very clever!

[Regal]

As long as you dont claim for them you dont have to do them
We got first load this week , i was still backlogged with post so never did them simply put them at side of bin.