Quiting, what's the norm?

Jimbo2017 · Post by **Jimbo2017** » 29 Dec 2017, 09:12

So if I go in on Tuesday and give the contractual four weeks notice, will I work those four weeks minus my remaining annual leave or will the Manager march me out the door straight away?

What' the norm?

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 29 Dec 2017, 11:13

Where you getting 4 weeks from?
It's 7 days.

doorstepped · Post by **doorstepped** » 29 Dec 2017, 13:22

all new staff from April 2017 have to give 4 weeks notice to quit.
everyone before that it's still one week.

whats to stop you just quitting and walking away?
by the looks of it you have not been a postie for long ( low post count and joined here Aug 2017 ) so a reference from RM will be almost pointless anyway.

Jimbo2017 · Post by **Jimbo2017** » 29 Dec 2017, 13:27

From the contract: "If you wish to leave Royal Mail employment you must give four week's notice if weekly paid or one month's notice if monthly paid. Royal Mail may wave this notice period either in whole or in part."

Jimbo2017 · Post by **Jimbo2017** » 29 Dec 2017, 13:54

doorstepped wrote:whats to stop you just quitting and walking away?

The need to have another job lined up so that I go from this to that. Being unemployed is s**t.

doorstepped · Post by **doorstepped** » 29 Dec 2017, 15:01

get yourself another job in the next few weeks, don't limit yourself to 4 weeks of your notice.

then when you are offered another job, just walk. or call your DOM a c*** etc and get the sack ;)

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 29 Dec 2017, 15:25

Agree with the post above, I wouldn't hand your notice in.

In my experiance there's loads of jobs about but many are poorly paid, low hours, unsecure ect ect. Many are not all they're cracked up to be. Say what you want about Royal Mail, thanks to the Union our hourly is decent for non skilled work and is secure. When you find a job you want, just jack it then. You've got nothing much to lose by just walking away if you have another job to go to anyway.

Jimbo2017 · Post by **Jimbo2017** » 29 Dec 2017, 16:03

yes its a great job on delivery. but the dom has got me running round everyday fixing all his problems, I'm starting my round 2 hours after everyone else, and that's when I'm running from problem to problem. Just thinking of the place is getting me stressed. Dom's not letting me transfer out, quitting's my only way to stop it.

rehabron · Post by **rehabron** » 29 Dec 2017, 16:57

Jimbo2017 wrote:yes its a great job on delivery. but the dom has got me running round everyday fixing all his problems, I'm starting my round 2 hours after everyone else, and that's when I'm running from problem to problem. Just thinking of the place is getting me stressed. Dom's not letting me transfer out, quitting's my only way to stop it.

Your wrong quitting is the easy way out. There is enough procedures in place to assist you eg. cutting off to finish on duty time, grievance procedure, B&H.
You need to speak with your local union rep explain your circumstances that is stressing you out that is what you pay your union fees for if you are a union member.

Post by **Brandy** » 29 Dec 2017, 17:13

Jimbo2017 wrote:yes its a great job on delivery. but the dom has got me running round everyday fixing all his problems, I'm starting my round 2 hours after everyone else, and that's when I'm running from problem to problem. Just thinking of the place is getting me stressed. Dom's not letting me transfer out, quitting's my only way to stop it.

No wonder you are getting stressed,a lot of the problems are caused by doms that have no man management skills and no idea how to run a delivery office,a lot of them were probably rubbish posties who couldnt hack the job,but then decide they can tell others how it should be done when they couldnt bloody well do it themselves! Another problem is they always seem to have their favourites who get away with almost everything and get what ever they want.
I just hope you can sort things out,it is a great job and I loved it for a good many years,but in the end I had to get out.Good luck anyway.

magicw · Post by **magicw** » 29 Dec 2017, 17:15

Sorry to hijack! Same sort of question different reasons.

I ve been provisionally offered another job, Pending references and an enhanced DBS. If I give notice the whole process might take another 2-4 weeks max.

With the negotiations on going until at least 09/01/2018 and any subsequent pay award being back dated to April 2017 . If I was not in RM employment at the time any agreement was or is reached ( obviously not a given ) would I be eligible to any back dated pay for the period I worked between April 2017 and a possible agreement.

I suppose it would really be whether ( as I expect ) a nominal sum say £600 consolidated onto next years pay is given or if its a percentage hourly rate and they take the time to work out everyones Hours / OT and Schedule attendances.

If as I expect for ease of administration its the former and not the later then I would Imagine I will luck out if I ve left. I would think I ve got a legitimate claim for any pay award that is made based on a percentage over hours from April 2017?

Anyone know the Craic.

I also take it I would loose any shares that I had not vested at that point. Think there is about another £700 worth which can be cashed in April 2018.

So all in all leaving at this stage could potentially cost me about £1400 ????

rubberbond · Post by **rubberbond** » 29 Dec 2017, 17:30

If you have another job, that you obviously believe to be better than the one you've got,why worry about what you are leaving behind in monetary terms. Seems daft to me to hang on just in case.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 29 Dec 2017, 18:07

magicw wrote: If as I expect for ease of administration its the former and not the later then I would Imagine I will luck out if I ve left. I would think I ve got a legitimate claim for any pay award that is made based on a percentage over hours from April 2017?

No you can't claim retrospective pay rises after you have left a company. When Royal Mail award retrospective pay rises, along with most other UK companies, you usually have to be still employed on the date of the award (not the backdated date).

Any shares that have not yet reached the 3 year maturity will be lost.

Any past the 3 years but not 5, you will have to Pay tax on them, but you can transfer or sell them.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 29 Dec 2017, 18:22

What is the punishment for not giving a week or a months notice given that at most we are paid a week in hand in any case apart from overpaid holiday entitlements they could claim back as the business is run on a shoestring so if anyone goes sick or just jacks it in it is the same cost to said business?

Gangham_style14 · Post by **Gangham_style14** » 29 Dec 2017, 21:58

Why not speak to your dom about your concerns ....
Are you going over your agreed contract hours ?
Yes - Then cut of
No - Are you starting earlier than you should to give them an excuse to use you for other jobs ?
If you are then start on your time.

If a meeting with the Dom doesn’t work out, seek advice from your union rep, the job itself isn’t that bad. Weigh up your pros and cons against a new job. I know ex Posties who admit the grass isn’t always greener.
I like my job once I am out delivering on the streets. The office can be a polluted environment. Once I’m
Out posting. It’s all good