postslippete wrote:
Why would you leave your D2Ds at the back of the bundle? Imagine out on delivery with 4 or 5 lots of flyers trying to grab them all from the back of the bundle (If you can remember exactly what streets you have to do) with the sequenced letters at the top of the bundle and somehow the mis-sorted letters somewhere lumped at the back before the D2Ds.
I don't know what delivery you do Clash, but its really not as easy as it looks
The proposal is for the D2D to be collated. You don't have to merge 4/5 on delivery.
I do what everyone else should do on delivery. I don't look for ways to make an easy job really complicated.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
There isn't a "3rd" bundle for 5/6ths of the duty.
Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Although you may only do 1/6ths in terms of numbers depending on the frame layout that might still mean D2D on every loop so there may well be a "3rd" bundle for the entire duty. It might be in the trolley for most of the loop but it's still going to be an issue on every loop. Even 20 doors with an awkward mix of 6 different D2D will be a challenge, collated D2D and a self opening sleeve?, still waiting for proof of concept.
When they talk about sequencing 90% of the mail it is very unlikely in the near to medium future that this will mean a mixture of streams sequenced together. We are still a long way from fully sequenced flats, in fact if the buddy trays are an indication we're still a long way from walk sorted flats.
fishtank wrote:We are still a long way from fully sequenced flats, in fact if the buddy trays are an indication we're still a long way from walk sorted flats.
I can't see sequenced flats ever happening, there just isn't the volume to justify the cost of the machines that RM would have to get to do them. What I think might be more likely is that RM get Solystic's XMS machines or similar and have flats and letters sequenced together. Don't know if it's possible to do d2d at the same time.
fishtank wrote:collated D2D and a self opening sleeve
I can't see that happening either. If you were a company that uses d2d, would you pay out when there's a chance that the end reciever could bin all the delivered d2d and your item might not ever be seen?
What I think might be more likely is that RM get Solystic's XMS machines or similar and have flats and letters sequenced together
You'll know better than me but the questions are what kind of cost would we be talking about to install enough of those to make any kind of difference to the network, what kind of timescales would we be looking at, is there a real business case or will it just be a case of "sometime in the future" but in the meantime delivery staff would just be expected to muddle through with multiple bundles or bench merging and then the idea of full automation is quietly dropped because of "reducing volumes".
I can't see the business making that kind of investment in a reducing revenue stream when a huge investment in parcel technology is desperately needed. I think the delivery members will be conned into thinking that any interim solution whether it's multiple bundles or bench merging will be short term when the reality like D2D collation is that it's really a non starter on a large scale. Perhaps some mailcentres who feed offices that are in high value property areas might get them, you could understand where that kind of asset sale might pay for itself but a large scale investment seems unlikely.
postslippete wrote:
Why would you leave your D2Ds at the back of the bundle? Imagine out on delivery with 4 or 5 lots of flyers trying to grab them all from the back of the bundle (If you can remember exactly what streets you have to do) with the sequenced letters at the top of the bundle and somehow the mis-sorted letters somewhere lumped at the back before the D2Ds.
I don't know what delivery you do Clash, but its really not as easy as it looks
The proposal is for the D2D to be collated. You don't have to merge 4/5 on delivery.
I do what everyone else should do on delivery. I don't look for ways to make an easy job really complicated.
Well I suppose if you put 5 letters in a bundle like you mentioned in the previous post, you will need a lot of elastic bands to make up a lot of bundles.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
You'll know better than me but the questions are what kind of cost would we be talking about to install enough of those to make any kind of difference to the network, what kind of timescales would we be looking at, is there a real business case or will it just be a case of "sometime in the future" but in the meantime delivery staff would just be expected to muddle through with multiple bundles or bench merging and then the idea of full automation is quietly dropped because of "reducing volumes".
"They" caught a cold on the CSS installation programme; by the time the project was finished many CSSs were under-utilised and some de-commissioned on the strength of reduced volumes. Now we're a private company RM will expect quick returns on any such long-term investment or it won't happen.
Contrary to some doh-bait in another thread claiming the automation is "old and worn out" RM will doubtless soldier on for the foreseeable future with what they've got until things level out, then review it from there.
You'll know better than me but the questions are what kind of cost would we be talking about to install enough of those to make any kind of difference to the network, what kind of timescales would we be looking at, is there a real business case or will it just be a case of "sometime in the future" but in the meantime delivery staff would just be expected to muddle through with multiple bundles or bench merging and then the idea of full automation is quietly dropped because of "reducing volumes".
"They" caught a cold on the CSS installation programme; by the time the project was finished many CSSs were under-utilised and some de-commissioned on the strength of reduced volumes. Now we're a private company RM will expect quick returns on any such long-term investment or it won't happen.
Contrary to some doh-bait in another thread claiming the automation is "old and worn out" RM will doubtless soldier on for the foreseeable future with what they've got until things level out, then review it from there.
Sounds about right "T man" they are still soldiering on with CFC's that if they aren't
already they are close to 30 years old.They must be costing a shed load on maintenance.
Nobody has still answered how they are physically able to sequence 3 boxes of letters from beginning to end for a walk to be loaded directly into the back of a van for delivery??
Nobody has still answered how they are physically able to sequence 3 boxes of letters from beginning to end for a walk to be loaded directly into the back of a van for delivery??
But it won't be 3 trays as it's supposed to be letters and flats sequenced together. So i would guess in excess of 10 trays per duty
Nobody has still answered how they are physically able to sequence 3 boxes of letters from beginning to end for a walk to be loaded directly into the back of a van for delivery??
But it won't be 3 trays as it's supposed to be letters and flats sequenced together. So i would guess in excess of 10 trays per duty
For that to happen RM would need to replace at least all CFCs, IMPs, iLSMs and CSS machines. might also need all T2K machines replacing as well
" they are still soldiering on with CFC's that if they aren't
already they are close to 30 years old.They must be costing a shed load on maintenance.
About twenty five to twenty eight years old for most, but whatever extra costs are incurred by their age (and it wouldn't be much) is more than off-set by RM continuing to get their money's-worth out of them. They were roughly £125,000 per unit back in the early-90's on Toshiba's original contract so they've more than paid for themselves many times over.
You'll be seeing them around for some time yet...
" they are still soldiering on with CFC's that if they aren't
already they are close to 30 years old.They must be costing a shed load on maintenance.
About twenty five to twenty eight years old for most, but whatever extra costs are incurred by their age (and it wouldn't be much) is more than off-set by RM continuing to get their money's-worth out of them. They were roughly £125,000 per unit back in the early-90's on Toshiba's original contract so they've more than paid for themselves many times over.
You'll be seeing them around for some time yet...
Just about sum's royal mail up outdated css machines outdated van's outdated management from the United States of America circa 1980 Reaganomics at it's worst all we need now is SDI strategic delivery initiative or starburst part Du!
