Speed camera! Damn!

[Lounge Lizard]

Matty,
But if log books and signing for vans are just distant memories then there's no need to spend our hard earned wages on expensive hair lacquer.

[Deadly]

If you aren't signing for vans or filling in the log book and a fine comes through, the consequences for your manager won't be pretty. And you can guarantee he/she isn't going to want to take the grief on their own.

[Interested-seeker]

Sorry but if it comes to light you should own up to it. It is not fair on other colleagues otherwise.

[Lounge Lizard]

But you can't reasonably own up if you've no recollection of driving the van that day and there's no documentation indicating that you did.
If that's good enough for Neil and Christine Hamilton http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eding.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it's good enough for us.

[yellowbelly]

But you can't reasonably own up if you've no recollection of driving the van that day and there's no documentation indicating that you did.
If that's good enough for Neil and Christine Hamilton http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eding.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it's good enough for us.

Surely it's not beyond the comprehension of the majority of RM managers to put together the circumstantial evidence of veh reg, time, location,
who was allocated the duty that day to work out who was driving. Even if RM don't bubble you for speeding isn't non-completion
of vehicle log book etc. a disciplinary offence of some sort?

Even worse if it was a van share are you going to put your colleague under pressure to deny who was or wasn't driving.
You could both be up s**t creek without a paddle then.

Don't think RM even have to prove guilt 'beyond reasonable doubt' do they?

Was the speed camera monitoring as you approached? Some photos include the image of the driver....

[Lounge Lizard]

But you can't reasonably own up if you've no recollection of driving the van that day and there's no documentation indicating that you did.
If that's good enough for Neil and Christine Hamilton http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eding.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it's good enough for us.

Surely it's not beyond the comprehension of the majority of RM managers to put together the circumstantial evidence of veh reg, time, location,
who was allocated the duty that day to work out who was driving. Even if RM don't bubble you for speeding isn't non-completion
of vehicle log book etc. a disciplinary offence of some sort?

Even worse if it was a van share are you going to put your colleague under pressure to deny who was or wasn't driving.
You could both be up s**t creek without a paddle then.

Don't think RM even have to prove guilt 'beyond reasonable doubt' do they?

Was the speed camera monitoring as you approached? Some photos include the image of the driver....

With "beyond the comprehension of the majority of RM managers" you obviously have more confidence in their ability than I do.
"Non-completion of vehicle log book etc." is in my experience taken no more seriously than non completion of the dozen or more checks that are meant to be done daily but never are.
I very much doubt if my van share partner will have any better memory of that day than me, or than the Hamiltons did all those years ago
and that's a bit like not being sure who lost a bag of mail https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/d ... ayout/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yes, "some photos include the image of the driver" but I'm fortunate that my van share partner bears a remarkable resemblance to my twin brother.

[NewPostieUK]

ACPO guidelines for prosecution 10% +2mph =35mph, as others have stated the Speedo will over read by anything up to 10%.
So you may have only been doing 32mph.
The force can prosecute at 31mph but I've yet to hear of anyone being done.
I got stung doing 37 in a 30 about 3yrs ago, I was offered a SAC ,it was £84 and no points on the license.

I got flashed two fridays running by a Gatso. I was in a strange village and thought I'd left the 30 zone. I got 3 points and £60 fine (it was a few years ago) for each.

I was doing 32 and 33 MPH.

On a positive note, my speedo was showing 36 or 37 MPH so OP might get away with it. It's true they aren't very accurate at all, and always read over (rather than under).

[Lounge Lizard]

ACPO guidelines for prosecution 10% +2mph =35mph, as others have stated the Speedo will over read by anything up to 10%.
So you may have only been doing 32mph.
The force can prosecute at 31mph but I've yet to hear of anyone being done.
I got stung doing 37 in a 30 about 3yrs ago, I was offered a SAC ,it was £84 and no points on the license.

I got flashed two fridays running by a Gatso. I was in a strange village and thought I'd left the 30 zone. I got 3 points and £60 fine (it was a few years ago) for each.

I was doing 32 and 33 MPH.

On a positive note, my speedo was showing 36 or 37 MPH so OP might get away with it. It's true they aren't very accurate at all, and always read over (rather than under).

On the second Friday did you not remember getting flashed on the first Friday ?

[NewPostieUK]

On the second Friday did you not remember getting flashed on the first Friday ?

No.

I didn't know I'd been flashed the first friday. The second friday I saw the flash and when I got home there was the letter of intended prosecution!

Bloody hell that was quick I said.

Seven days later. . .the other pops through the letterbox.

OK stop laughing now.

[Lounge Lizard]

On the second Friday did you not remember getting flashed on the first Friday ?

No.

I didn't know I'd been flashed the first friday. The second friday I saw the flash and when I got home there was the letter of intended prosecution!

Bloody hell that was quick I said.

Seven days later. . .the other pops through the letterbox.

OK stop laughing now.

But what other than a flash made you look to see you were doing 32 on the first Friday ?

[NewPostieUK]

But what other than a flash made you look to see you were doing 32 on the first Friday ?

I didn't look the first friday.

The second friday I saw the flash and looked and was doing nearly 40.

I found out I'd been doing 32 and 33 when I got the fixed penalty notices.

[Lounge Lizard]

But what other than a flash made you look to see you were doing 32 on the first Friday ?

I didn't look the first friday.

The second friday I saw the flash and looked and was doing nearly 40.

I found out I'd been doing 32 and 33 when I got the fixed penalty notices.

Ah, my mistake, I see now.

[nickbsmooth]

It's illegal to have a Speedo that under reads.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

It's illegal to have a Speedo that under reads.

Correct

The UK law is based on the EU standard, with some minor changes. A speedo must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph. So if your true speed is 40mph, your speedo could legally be reading up to 50.25mph but never less than 40mph. Or to put it another way, if your speedo is reading 50mph, you won’t be doing more than 50mph but it’s possible you might actually only be travelling at 40mph.