go on strike, well get angard staff to cover it

Nigel1505 · Post by **Nigel1505** » 03 Oct 2017, 16:51

if they find every house and farm on my rural, then they are better than me, 'cause it took me a week to fathom it all out when I first started.

t3mcIUQWE2 · Post by **t3mcIUQWE2** » 03 Oct 2017, 17:38

rogersh wrote:We have already got our Angard staff in place! , As I have recently posted on another thread.

[...]

I have never understood why this situation is allowed to continue whereby those part -timers are fulfilling the obligation set out in the Agenda for growth, But are also working along side semi-permanent agency staff.

Happened in our DO. Walked straight out and that was the end of that. It's up to you.

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 03 Oct 2017, 17:45

If Angard are offering £9.50 p/hr they'll be charging RM significantly more than we're paid

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 03 Oct 2017, 18:16

nickbsmooth wrote:If Angard are offering £9.50 p/hr they'll be charging RM significantly more than we're paid

And if on time or if they go bump lot's of companies do it this way as no liability's will affect them.

lightningpostman · Post by **lightningpostman** » 03 Oct 2017, 19:48

nickbsmooth wrote:If Angard are offering £9.50 p/hr they'll be charging RM significantly more than we're paid

angard is RM's 0 hour slave labour organisation, they do all the christmas temps and now from the looks of it, 0 hour postmen/women

telithowitis · Post by **telithowitis** » 03 Oct 2017, 21:29

As part of the industrial action can staff refuse to train them?

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 03 Oct 2017, 21:40

lightningpostman wrote:
nickbsmooth wrote:If Angard are offering £9.50 p/hr they'll be charging RM significantly more than we're paid
angard is RM's 0 hour slave labour organisation, they do all the christmas temps and now from the looks of it, 0 hour postmen/women

So Angard are part of the Royal Mail group? I just clicked on one of the Vacancies on Angard website £10.57 after 12months plus £23 delivery supplements all seems familiar to normal RM pay rates

Post by **pickles10** » 04 Oct 2017, 12:56

googoo wrote:As far as I'm aware using agency staff during strike action is unlawful. They will probably be used on the days we go back to try and help with the backlog.

Agency workers already in place as part of your normal business can carry on as usual..lot of Angard staff on the books

Kick the Bucket · Post by **Kick the Bucket** » 04 Oct 2017, 16:02

pickles10 wrote:
googoo wrote:As far as I'm aware using agency staff during strike action is unlawful. They will probably be used on the days we go back to try and help with the backlog.
Agency workers already in place as part of your normal business can carry on as usual..lot of Angard staff on the books

Hopefully, some of these agency workers choose not to undermine our industrial action...

lightningpostman · Post by **lightningpostman** » 04 Oct 2017, 17:56

nickbsmooth wrote:
lightningpostman wrote:
nickbsmooth wrote:If Angard are offering £9.50 p/hr they'll be charging RM significantly more than we're paid
angard is RM's 0 hour slave labour organisation, they do all the christmas temps and now from the looks of it, 0 hour postmen/women
So Angard are part of the Royal Mail group? I just clicked on one of the Vacancies on Angard website £10.57 after 12months plus £23 delivery supplements all seems familiar to normal RM pay rates

http://www.angardstaffing.co.uk/default.aspx?pid=12" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Angard Staffing is part of Royal Mail and has been outsourced to Reed Specialist Recruitment to manage."

Address
ANGARD STAFFING SOLUTIONS LIMITED
100 VICTORIA EMBANKMENT
LONDON
EC4Y 0HQ

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/dec ... s-complain" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"The criticism is mostly directed at Angard Staffing Solutions, an in-house employment agency owned by Royal Mail and part-managed by Reed Specialist Recruitment"

Post by **rogersh** » 04 Oct 2017, 19:47

t3mcIUQWE2 wrote:
rogersh wrote:We have already got our Angard staff in place! , As I have recently posted on another thread.

[...]

I have never understood why this situation is allowed to continue whereby those part -timers are fulfilling the obligation set out in the Agenda for growth, But are also working along side semi-permanent agency staff.
Happened in our DO. Walked straight out and that was the end of that. It's up to you.

At the RDC I work at it has always been the case that Agency/Angard are a fixture. In fact I started as one for a couple of years before being taken on. In the past 5 years 3 intakes of Royal Mail staff have been employed on temporary contracts, The latest number 71, Many do overtime yet they still use the agency resource on a daily basis.
Therefore this arrangement is normal practice as it does not appear to be recognised as being in breach of the agreement as I read it.

Darren Bent · Post by **Darren Bent** » 05 Oct 2017, 14:27

Are we allowed to block entry to stop movement of mail and people from entering. .

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 05 Oct 2017, 14:31

Darren Bent wrote:Are we allowed to block entry to stop movement of mail and people from entering. .

No.

A small group is allowed to approach individuals, in a non-threatening manner, and try to explain why you are striking and how they may show support with you.

But in no way are you allowed to stop mail or people entering.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 05 Oct 2017, 16:37

can we call them f***ing strike breakers!!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 05 Oct 2017, 16:40

because it used to happen, but I think nowadays its not politically correct, and you can be sacked for it.