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Revealed: a secret parcel hoard

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... ost128.xml

By Patrick Sawer and Miles Erwin
Last Updated: 1:03am GMT 28/10/2007

The Royal Mail was last night accused of hoarding thousands of parcels as a way of masking the real effect of the post strike.

Evidence has been uncovered that parcels and other items of mail which should have been delivered when the strikes came to an end two weeks ago have instead been stored in a warehouse in north London.

ImageMail backlog, revealed: a secret parcel hoard
Two weeks after the strike ended, temporary staff are struggling to clear thousands of parcels

It is claimed that the parcels were collected from depots around London and the south-east and taken to the warehouse in Barnet. The Royal Mail last night admitted it had opened the warehouse facility in order to cope with the strike.

Royal Mail managers said they have not fully cleared the backlog of 120 million items created by the stoppages and it is thought there are still around 25 million items stuck in the system.

Small businesses have complained that many of their customers have yet to receive goods and orders which they requested before members of the Communications Workers Union (CWU) staged two 48-hour strikes earlier this month.

It has now emerged that some of the parcels and letters caught up in the dispute have been kept at the secret warehouse to await collection and delivery.

Trevor Angel, owner of Essex jewellery distributor Bubbles Jewels, whose business relies solely on the Royal Mail, said he learned of the warehouse when he tried to trace 156 parcels he had dispatched in early October.

Mr Angel said: "When I asked the Royal Mail about the parcels, I was told by a manager at Southend that an artic lorry had picked up all their parcel post, as well as parcels from the rest of the London area and south-east, and then circled the M25 looking for a warehouse in which to dump them. That's where they still are."

Like many other small business owners who rely on the Royal Mail Mr Angel — who estimates he lost £10,000 worth of business because of the strike — fears his most loyal customers will now go elsewhere.

The Sunday Telegraph tracked down the warehouse where Mr Angel's deliveries have been temporarily stored and found thousands of parcels stacked haphazardly, still awaiting delivery.

Several boxes, despite being labelled "Handle With Care", were balanced precariously on top of sacks and mail bags. Dozens of temporary workers could be seen struggling to make an impression on the huge mountain of parcels at the anonymous building — the size of a football pitch — housed on an industrial estate.

Some of the backlog is the result of wildcat strikes by Royal Mail workers in east London following the official end of the dispute on October 12.

Unofficial stoppages in east and central London, Glasgow, Merseyside and Lancashire created a further headache for managers.

The Royal Mail denied the parcels were being deliberately hoarded, but admitted some of the backlog created by the strike had yet to be delivered.

A spokesman said: "The backlog in the Barnet warehouse was a result of the unofficial strikes in east London and has been largely cleared.

The backlog from the national strikes has also largely been cleared. We are doing all we can to clear it.

"We always set up temporary facilities in this period, but the Barnet one came into operation earlier because of the strike."

Some postal workers have complained that the backlog could have been cleared faster had the Royal Mail been willing to pay overtime, but the company said it refused to effectively reward strikers for causing the delays.

The deal that ended the dispute included a backdated lump sum of £175, a 2.5 per cent rise for the rest of this financial year and 4.2 per cent for next year.

Postwatch said it had been assured the backlog was "manageable", but a spokesman for the watchdog added: "The Royal Mail told us last week the backlog had come down to around 25 million. There will be isolated incidents of mail taking longer to be delivered.

"It is a tense situation at the moment, with strikers working alongside non-strikers and the peace deal still having to be ratified by the CWU membership."

The strikes are estimated to have cost the London economy alone more than £300 million. A survey for the British Chambers of Commerce found that more than half the small companies surveyed were now more likely to use alternative services to reduce the risk of further disruption.

Matthew Knowles, a spokesman for the Federation of Small Businesses, said 94 per cent of small companies rely on the Royal Mail to deliver their goods and receive payment. Some firms have gone without any cash flow for weeks as cheques languished in the backlog, he said, adding: "It would have cost millions of pounds. I'm sure some have gone under. It would have been the straw that broke the camel's back."

Small Business owner Trevor Angel was stunned to discover the parcels he had carefully sent to customers were piling up in a north London warehouse.

He realised his business was going to suffer as a result of the postal dispute as soon as dozens of customers began calling to complain that their orders had yet to arrive.

Two weeks after the dispute was settled, many are still waiting for the items they had ordered from his online company Bubble Jewels.

Mr Angel, 52, is completely reliant on the Royal Mail, having set up his firm five years ago to import designer jewellery from Denmark and sell it via his website.

When the official strikes came to an end on October 12, he dispatched 156 parcels to customers across Britain, having held on to the orders until the end of the dispute.

But Mr Angel (above) learned that instead of being delivered, they had been taken to the warehouse in Barnet, where they were still languishing last night. He now fears that other small firms may have suffered a similar fate.

When his customers complained to the Royal Mail it referred them back to Mr Angel, saying that since the dispute was over they ought to seek compensation from him.

Mr Angel said: "I tell my customers Royal Mail has still got packages from the strike, but because they're getting mail through the door again they don't believe me. That kind of information is totally misleading for the customer and is very damaging to my company's credibility."

He estimates the dispute has cost him about £10,000 and hit customer loyalty. The former driving instructor, from Shoeburyness, Essex, said: "We rely totally on Royal Mail. They messed up big time and an apology would be nice. But as it is, the posties go on strike and I have to pay for it."
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Post by andy2007 »

I wondered why the backlog in my RDC was cleared so fast. This is probably the answer.

As for the matter of compensation: I am disgusted with RM that they are putting the blame for missing items on their Customers, even when they are hoarding them. But unfortunately, I can't say that I am surprised.
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Post by axeman »

they took artics full from ours during the strikes could this be happening outside of london too ?
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Re: Revealed: a secret parcel hoard

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MY FLIPING MOBILE PHONES AMONG THAT LOT YOU PAIR OF TWISTED ARSEHOLES :no no
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Don't know.

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axeman wrote:they took artics full from ours during the strikes could this be happening outside of london too ?
I don't know. It arrives by the Lorry load at the RDCs, so they could have diverted them without us knowing. But it seems strange that we have had no backlog at all for several days, considering that we were out for so long.

I admit, I'm only guessing that they pulled a similar trick. It could have been that the Customers simply weren't posting as much. But it is enough to make me suspicious.
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Post by nelson »

As they cleared the MC's do the managers get a bigger bonus?

I would have thought it would make the Sunday TV news, but no only the royals, what a surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by chayoliver »

As ive said in other posts RM are absalutely in tatters there is so much work stuck in the system we are just recieving items dated as far back as 5th 6ht 7th october and there are approx 600 rcs full of work at prdc for our office alone ? makes you wonder why a deal was done when we had them by the balls ? obviously goverment must have leaned on RM CWU to sort it out asap and by the looks of it the CWU bottled it
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Post by Trends Guild »

This is disgraceful - I have customers being actually abusive to me now because they believe I have just kept their money and haven't posted anything out...they believe that backlog is cleared or almost cleared.
I wish the CWU would use this kind of thing to show up RM management for what it is. Every RM customer should see it.
Nobody wants a RM run like this, whether they are in sympathy with posties or not.
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Post by Albethere »

I suspect there may be a similar "secret" hoard of parcels in the north west too - judging by the 6th Oct, and 8th Oct, postmarks on recently delivered items! This seems to be confusing the general public as the delayed items are being delivered alongside very recently posted items!!!
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Post by DirtyHarry »

Isn't it about time that customers demanded that Leighton & Crozier were taken to task over this entire fiasco, a fiasco entirely of their own making?

After all, fairness on their part would have ensured a strike-free year, and no interruption for our customers.
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DirtyHarry wrote:Isn't it about time that customers demanded that Leighton & Crozier were taken to task over this entire fiasco, a fiasco entirely of their own making?
There is no way to do that is there? Under normal circumstances, a free market would ensure that C & L have to treat their customers with respect or lose them. They seem to take the attitude that it doesn't matter since they have a monopoly on mail to private customers. Sometimes it feels (as a customer) that this is a deliberate tactic to make us all hate the RM as an entity, so much so, that we will all support complete privatisation of it. If I put me conspiracy theory hat on, I would guess that that is exactly what they are trying to do. Maybe that's what they have actually been employed for.
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Trends Guild wrote:
There is no way to do that is there? Under normal circumstances, a free market would ensure that C & L have to treat their customers with respect or lose them. They seem to take the attitude that it doesn't matter since they have a monopoly on mail to private customers. Sometimes it feels (as a customer) that this is a deliberate tactic to make us all hate the RM as an entity, so much so, that we will all support complete privatisation of it. If I put me conspiracy theory hat on, I would guess that that is exactly what they are trying to do. Maybe that's what they have actually been employed for.
Yes, despite the fact that RM retain the lion's share of the "market", for all intents and purposes, still retain almost a "monopoly", messrs. Leighton &
Crozier, still persist in this fallacy of "competition". We must all of us, do what we can to let them, and the government that endorses their brand of maniacal
mis-management, know that we can see the current situation for what it really is, a cynical attempt to turn a once great public institution for the many, into
a money-making machine for a handful of money-grubbers. How do we do this? ..... We write to our MPs, to the PM's office direct, to the newspapers.... We
back 100% any campaign set up to reverse both government and RM policies of the last 5 years, or at least try to influence such a change.

We all know their game, let's let them know that we know, if you know what I mean. :Very Happy
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Trends Guild wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Isn't it about time that customers demanded that Leighton & Crozier were taken to task over this entire fiasco, a fiasco entirely of their own making?
There is no way to do that is there? Under normal circumstances, a free market would ensure that C & L have to treat their customers with respect or lose them. They seem to take the attitude that it doesn't matter since they have a monopoly on mail to private customers. Sometimes it feels (as a customer) that this is a deliberate tactic to make us all hate the RM as an entity, so much so, that we will all support complete privatisation of it. If I put me conspiracy theory hat on, I would guess that that is exactly what they are trying to do. Maybe that's what they have actually been employed for.
It's not a conspiracy , it's been done before with Telecom & the Railways . The Drip, Drip effect & the 80's mantra Private = Good , Public =Bad .

Also the Tories made damm well sure their mates were well looked after i.e. close mental hospitals down which just happen to be in prime real estate locations and bring in care in the community with a disportionate number of ex residents working in mail centres & DC's !.Then there's the private nursing homes , porters, cleaners , auxillary nurses TUPED , if they were lucky ! in the private sector .

With BT , if any of their staff got in trouble with the police , it'd be all over the papers . I've seen a guard get pulled up by the cops in the early hours , drink driving is dangerous & stupid but the local rag did everything bar printing his picture .

Then with privatisation L & C will actually pretend they give a s*** about service, remember if your'e not posting junk mail , you're not his customers , just a pain in the a*** .

The name of the game is to drive people's expectations down and make them so cynical that they realise protest is futile .
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Post by jemima »

Whoever ordered that the mail be intentionally delayed should be prosecuted. If anyone has any evidence of this I expect the police would like to know.
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Post by chayoliver »

Trends Guild wrote:This is disgraceful - I have customers being actually abusive to me now because they believe I have just kept their money and haven't posted anything out...they believe that backlog is cleared or almost cleared.
I wish the CWU would use this kind of thing to show up RM management for what it is. Every RM customer should see it.
Nobody wants a RM run like this, whether they are in sympathy with posties or not.
Totally agree with you i run a business as well as working for royal mail and the strike as hit me both ways by no money going on strike lack of orders for my business and people moaning and asking for refunds because of lost items but i know the truth they are still in the system :arrrghhh
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