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There is no need for postal strike
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Your readers may have read about a potential strike at Royal Mail by the Communications Workers Union (CWU), ‘Fears strike could hit Christmas post’, Southwark News, September 20, 2017.
Our postmen and women have the best pay – and the best terms and conditions – in our industry. They do an amazing job in all weathers – rain or shine.
Average pay is 45-50m per cent above the National Living Wage. None of that is changing. There are just no grounds for a strike.
Previous strikes at Royal Mail meant we let our customers down. Some of our major rivals today were actually established because of those strikes.
There really is no point shooting ourselves in the foot.
So, what’s at issue?
Well, not the great terms and conditions postmen and women have, as I said before. On pay, we have made a very good offer. That follows a 10.8 per cent pay rise in the four years since privatisation. That compares favourably with the 6.4 per cent UK national average earnings increase over the same period.
On pensions, we know how important pension benefits are to colleagues. Our proposal would be by far the best pension scheme in the industry – and one that benchmarks well to other large employers. Many of our postmen and women are in a Defined Benefit scheme – 63 per cent, in fact, compared to just 6 per cent of workers across the UK private sector.
We do need to change to a different type of Defined Benefit arrangement. That’s because – every year – it would cost us at least three times more than the cash we generate just to keep the existing pension open. No business could do that.
Royal Mail is a very good employer. We provide great terms and conditions.
We are working hard to keep improving our services to customers in a very competitive industry.
There is no need to strike. We want to work with our postmen and women, our great ambassadors, to keep being the best delivery company in the UK.
Tony Fox, Royal Mail Regional Operations Director – South
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Your readers may have read about a potential strike at Royal Mail by the Communications Workers Union (CWU), ‘Fears strike could hit Christmas post’, Southwark News, September 20, 2017.
Our postmen and women have the best pay – and the best terms and conditions – in our industry. They do an amazing job in all weathers – rain or shine.
Average pay is 45-50m per cent above the National Living Wage. None of that is changing. There are just no grounds for a strike.
Previous strikes at Royal Mail meant we let our customers down. Some of our major rivals today were actually established because of those strikes.
There really is no point shooting ourselves in the foot.
So, what’s at issue?
Well, not the great terms and conditions postmen and women have, as I said before. On pay, we have made a very good offer. That follows a 10.8 per cent pay rise in the four years since privatisation. That compares favourably with the 6.4 per cent UK national average earnings increase over the same period.
On pensions, we know how important pension benefits are to colleagues. Our proposal would be by far the best pension scheme in the industry – and one that benchmarks well to other large employers. Many of our postmen and women are in a Defined Benefit scheme – 63 per cent, in fact, compared to just 6 per cent of workers across the UK private sector.
We do need to change to a different type of Defined Benefit arrangement. That’s because – every year – it would cost us at least three times more than the cash we generate just to keep the existing pension open. No business could do that.
Royal Mail is a very good employer. We provide great terms and conditions.
We are working hard to keep improving our services to customers in a very competitive industry.
There is no need to strike. We want to work with our postmen and women, our great ambassadors, to keep being the best delivery company in the UK.
Tony Fox, Royal Mail Regional Operations Director – South
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No grounds' for strike action says Royal Mail Northern Ireland chief
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THE head of Royal Mail in Northern Ireland has said there are "no grounds" for proposed strike action, claiming workers would be 'shooting themselves in the foot'.
In a letter to the Irish News Paul Sweeney has spoken out against the potential action from the Communications Workers Union (CWU). In the correspondence he writes that Royal Mail is a "very good employer" and states staff have the best pay and terms and conditions in the industry.
Earlier this month the CWU announced plans to ballot more than 100,000 of its members working for Royal Mail in the UK over industrial action. The union has opposed Royal Mail's move to replace its defined benefit pension scheme, claiming it would result in members losing up to a third of their future pensions on average. Concerns have also been raised over the firm's direction since privatisation.
Mr Sweeney has re-iterated the company's position that there are "just no grounds for a strike".
"Our postmen and women have the best pay – and the best terms and conditions – in our industry. They do an amazing job in all weathers – rain or shine. Average pay is 45 to 50 per cent above the National Living Wage. None of that is changing," he said.
"Previous strikes at Royal Mail meant we let our customers down. Some of our major rivals today were actually established because of those strikes. There really is no point shooting ourselves in the foot."
The Royal Mail general manager for Northern Ireland believes the company has made a "very good offer" to workers and challenged the rationale behind strike action.
"On pay, we have made a very good offer. That follows a 10.8 per cent pay rise in the four years since privatisation. That compares favourably with the 6.4 per cent UK national average earnings increase over the same period.
"On pensions, we know how important pension benefits are to colleagues. Our proposal would be by far the best pension scheme in the industry – and one that benchmarks well to other large employers."
"Royal Mail is a very good employer. We provide great terms and conditions. We are working hard to keep improving our services to customers in a very competitive industry. There is no need to strike. We want to work with our postmen and women, our great ambassadors, to keep being the best delivery company in the UK," Mr Sweeney added.
Speaking earlier this month CWU's deputy general secretary, Terry Pullinger said promises have been "shattered" by Royal Mail, and claims the company has become primarily concerned with minimising costs and maximising shareholder return.
"Our dispute is not only about protecting our members but also protecting a great public service and national institution, the Royal Mail Group, which should never have been privatised," Mr Pulliger said.
http://www.irishnews.com/business/2017/ ... f-1147146/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
THE head of Royal Mail in Northern Ireland has said there are "no grounds" for proposed strike action, claiming workers would be 'shooting themselves in the foot'.
In a letter to the Irish News Paul Sweeney has spoken out against the potential action from the Communications Workers Union (CWU). In the correspondence he writes that Royal Mail is a "very good employer" and states staff have the best pay and terms and conditions in the industry.
Earlier this month the CWU announced plans to ballot more than 100,000 of its members working for Royal Mail in the UK over industrial action. The union has opposed Royal Mail's move to replace its defined benefit pension scheme, claiming it would result in members losing up to a third of their future pensions on average. Concerns have also been raised over the firm's direction since privatisation.
Mr Sweeney has re-iterated the company's position that there are "just no grounds for a strike".
"Our postmen and women have the best pay – and the best terms and conditions – in our industry. They do an amazing job in all weathers – rain or shine. Average pay is 45 to 50 per cent above the National Living Wage. None of that is changing," he said.
"Previous strikes at Royal Mail meant we let our customers down. Some of our major rivals today were actually established because of those strikes. There really is no point shooting ourselves in the foot."
The Royal Mail general manager for Northern Ireland believes the company has made a "very good offer" to workers and challenged the rationale behind strike action.
"On pay, we have made a very good offer. That follows a 10.8 per cent pay rise in the four years since privatisation. That compares favourably with the 6.4 per cent UK national average earnings increase over the same period.
"On pensions, we know how important pension benefits are to colleagues. Our proposal would be by far the best pension scheme in the industry – and one that benchmarks well to other large employers."
"Royal Mail is a very good employer. We provide great terms and conditions. We are working hard to keep improving our services to customers in a very competitive industry. There is no need to strike. We want to work with our postmen and women, our great ambassadors, to keep being the best delivery company in the UK," Mr Sweeney added.
Speaking earlier this month CWU's deputy general secretary, Terry Pullinger said promises have been "shattered" by Royal Mail, and claims the company has become primarily concerned with minimising costs and maximising shareholder return.
"Our dispute is not only about protecting our members but also protecting a great public service and national institution, the Royal Mail Group, which should never have been privatised," Mr Pulliger said.
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POSTMAN
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It's like the old days Teebs, rem when they copy/pasted their replies all over the country, with failing offices I think lol.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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3 of my local papers have the same story from Rob Jebson

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blue1873
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There is no need for postal strike
What's that tune i hear playing in the background ..........could it be Running Scared .
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POSTMAN
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ATTN NEWSDESKSPOSTMAN wrote:It's like the old days Teebs, rem when they copy/pasted their replies all over the country, with failing offices I think lol.
Please find below a letter from Royal Mail’s Regional Operations Director for the West, Geoff Braden, outlining why we believe there are no grounds for the Communication Workers Union (CWU) to go on strike – they are currently balloting their members for industrial action.
Feel free to publish this online as a comment piece as well as in your paper.
Dear Editor,
Your readers may have read about a potential strike at Royal Mail by the Communications Workers Union (CWU).
Our postmen and women have the best pay – and the best terms and conditions – in our industry. They do an amazing job in all weathers – rain or shine. Average pay is 45-50% above the National Living Wage. None of that is changing. There are just no grounds for a strike.
Previous strikes at Royal Mail meant we let our customers down. Some of our major rivals today were actually established because of those strikes. There really is no point shooting ourselves in the foot.
So, what’s at issue? Well, not the great terms and conditions postmen and women have, as I said before. On pay, we have made a very good offer. That follows a 10.8% pay rise in the four years since privatisation. That compares favourably with the 6.4% UK national average earnings increase over the same period.
On pensions, we know how important pension benefits are to colleagues. Our proposal would be by far the best pension scheme in the industry – and one that benchmarks well to other large employers. Many of our postmen and women are in a Defined Benefit scheme - 63%, in fact, compared to just 6% of workers across the UK private sector. We do need to change to a different type of Defined Benefit arrangement. That’s because - every year - it would cost us at least three times more than the cash we generate just to keep the existing pension open. No business could do that.
Royal Mail is a very good employer. We provide great terms and conditions. We are working hard to keep improving our services to customers in a very competitive industry. There is no need to strike. We want to work with our postmen and women, our great ambassadors, to keep being the best delivery company in the UK.
Yours sincerely,
Geoff Braden
Royal Mail Regional Operations Director – West
Regards
Sally Hopkins
Senior External Relations Manager
Royal Mail Group
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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daveyeff
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its the same conveyor belt shite rolled out, day in day out. the published letter has been peddled out and a regional sector manager have put their name to it. same kind of crap when they come out with the same tired old message of '' royal mail is fully committed to'' blah blah blah. we had Moya on the telly last week at work time propaganda appearing to be ''CRYING''.....HA!! what a crock of s**t. ffs. they make me piss boil.
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rogersh
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I don't know what the tune is - but they are sounding like a broken record!blue1873 wrote:What's that tune i hear playing in the background ..........could it be Running Scared .
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NWpostie
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There will be no need for a strike.........IF they come to a sensible settlement with us once they see the strength of the of the vote results.
All Royal Mail is doing is to undermine our position, right now it's just all smokes and mirrors jockeying for position before the actual negotiations.
All Royal Mail is doing is to undermine our position, right now it's just all smokes and mirrors jockeying for position before the actual negotiations.
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rogersh
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The Video from September 1st included Terry Pullinger's fellow negotiating national officers - Andy Furey, Davie Robertson & Mark Baulch. It was implied that Royal Mail negotiators were leaderless & without the ability or authority to make the tough decisions.
It has been suggested that shareholders have been present at the talks.
So who are "They" on Royal Mail negotiating team ? .As my employer I would hope Royal Mail have the most experienced negotiators to represent the employees in securing an agreement.
And will they bring in a different team if the yes vote is 80% (my guess)
It has been suggested that shareholders have been present at the talks.
So who are "They" on Royal Mail negotiating team ? .As my employer I would hope Royal Mail have the most experienced negotiators to represent the employees in securing an agreement.
And will they bring in a different team if the yes vote is 80% (my guess)
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onthestella
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Turns out an over keen and not so knowledgeable new member of RM's communication team drafted this tripe up over the last few days. The great and the not so good got an email informing them yesterday that this letter would be appearing in their local/regional papers today. Up to lunchtime today two have formally complained that they were not made aware this was happening. Seems its not only front line posties that are ignoring RM communications these days.
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GRS
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More crap from people with fancy job titles sucking the company dry with their ludicrous pay and benefits packages. None of them have done a proper days work since joining the company, they are just leeches and hopefully they will be the first to go when the company starts to crumble. Funny thing is this if they went on strike no-one would notice and things would just carry on running as normal but if we go out the whole thing grinds to a halt. Shows who are the most valuable asset RM has and yet these tards think it’s them and that we are the waste of space. God they are prize pr**s.
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30+YEARMAN
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Brilliant !GRS wrote:More crap from people with fancy job titles sucking the company dry with their ludicrous pay and benefits packages. None of them have done a proper days work since joining the company, they are just leeches and hopefully they will be the first to go when the company starts to crumble. Funny thing is this if they went on strike no-one would notice and things would just carry on running as normal but if we go out the whole thing grinds to a halt. Shows who are the most valuable asset RM has and yet these tards think it’s them and that we are the waste of space. God they are prize pr**s.
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Chimps_tea_party
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