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norm wrote:
Interested-seeker wrote:The real fight is battling the gig economy. There needs to be more pressure on the government to clamp down on zero hour contracts provided by our competitors. The business model of companies such as Yodel should not even be legal. The only way our jobs and rights will be protected is if our competitors who thrive off using self employed workers are hit with newer and tougher employment legislation.

Let's get a petition to government in place and protest at Westminster. This is where I think our efforts would be well-placed...that's just my opinion though.
Hah! The tories are the architects of this gig-economy. They've never valued the working class, we are just a tool that keeps the economy turning, while they reap the rewards and skew everything in their favour. The act of privatising all our countries assets has so far just been one big money grab, name one privatised company that is actually better and serves the interest of the consumer/public.
I know, you are completely right. Capitalism and greed is destroying society, The top CEO just wants to make more and more profit every year at the expense of the working class, e.g. using automation to replace employees and offering zero-hour contracts, and unfortunately the current government is a proponent of this.

That's why I voted Labour. I want to see RM re-nationalized. Mail delivery is a PUBLIC service and should be government-owned.

But anyway, I still think the fight is at Westminster. Since the last election, Labour are able to put further pressure onto the Tories. The average joe is getting sick of austerity whilst the fat cats get richer and fatter.
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Interested-seeker wrote:The real fight is battling the gig economy. There needs to be more pressure on the government to clamp down on zero hour contracts provided by our competitors. The business model of companies such as Yodel should not even be legal. The only way our jobs and rights will be protected is if our competitors who thrive off using self employed workers are hit with newer and tougher employment legislation.

Let's get a petition to government in place and protest at Westminster. This is where I think our efforts would be well-placed...that's just my opinion though.

The government are supposed to be acting on the findings of the Taylor Report into the gig economy, who knows if they will or by how much...

http://www.cityam.com/268233/taylor-rev ... s-changing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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wacko74 wrote:
Interested-seeker wrote:The real fight is battling the gig economy. There needs to be more pressure on the government to clamp down on zero hour contracts provided by our competitors. The business model of companies such as Yodel should not even be legal. The only way our jobs and rights will be protected is if our competitors who thrive off using self employed workers are hit with newer and tougher employment legislation.

Let's get a petition to government in place and protest at Westminster. This is where I think our efforts would be well-placed...that's just my opinion though.

The government are supposed to be acting on the findings of the Taylor Report into the gig economy, who knows if they will or by how much...

http://www.cityam.com/268233/taylor-rev ... s-changing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"supposed to be acting" is just their pretence at not being the Nasty Party. :roll:
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Delivered more propaganda today. It had the usual rubbish on it but the best part was at the bottom PLEASE VOTE NO :left:.
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CPTNemoUK wrote:Delivered more propaganda today. It had the usual rubbish on it but the best part was at the bottom PLEASE VOTE NO :left:.
Did they actually use the P word?
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Post by CPTNemoUK »

Yes :Very Happy. Would of changed my vote to no but already posted it shame :left:
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CPTNemoUK wrote:Yes :Very Happy. Would of changed my vote to no but already posted it shame :left:
As is mine it would appear contrition is a tad too late even if it is fake!
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Post by lightningpostman »

pda today.

something along the lines of the usual propaganda bollox then a vote no and get terry pullinger back for some meaningful negotiations......


everything that has been proposed is a farce and i cannot wait until we stand shoulder to shoulder on that picket line
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Two more today. The usual a5 card one and one in an envelope. Haven't read a single item they've sent. What a waste of money
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:funneh Today "A No vote is a vote for CWU to come back to the table" :left:
So won't the CWU be "back to the table" after the massive "yes" vote ?
They must think we were born yesterday ! :arrrghhh :roll:
Oh, and haven't there been more than a few hours of talks already, talks that have got precisely nowhere ? :thumbdown
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A day late and A Dollar short in fact $100,000 if you include your pensions I say hang em high!
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Post by Stormproof »

I noticed the MC staff got 2 of those cards today, the one we all got and a special MC one. If I were actually a fence sitter all that crap thats landed on the door mat over the past few weeks would've certainly pushed me over to the YES side because of the constant mailings and brainwashing sessions over the past few weeks. Its harassment!
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Post by Tman »

="Interested-seeker expense of the working class, e.g. using automation to replace employees
That's what happens, it's called progress...unless you're some sort of Luddite?
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Post by DGH »

Tman wrote:
="Interested-seeker expense of the working class, e.g. using automation to replace employees
That's what happens, it's called progress...unless you're some sort of Luddite?
No. Progress is an improvement in condition. Automation may improve conditions, it may not. Nobody, surely, would argue that someone made redundant and put on benefits by automation has improved their condition.

Automation can improve things by making dangerous or tedious jobs unnecessary of course, and/or by improving efficiency, resulting in greater productivity. But if the wealth created by that is concentrated largely in the hands of a few, that is hardly progress . . . unless you're some sort of Social Darwinist.