I'm voting no

[datasaint]

Vote yes, give the union a stronger mandate in the negotiations, possibly averting any strike action.

[tommythreesheds]

When you're not doing so well, vote for a better life for yourself. If you are doing quite nicely, vote for a better life for others.

[chrisj]

I understand the need for a strong mandate but how many of these brave motormouth will actually go on strike or maintain a strike?

We a few in my office that thinks they are above the rest and always shooting off their mouth but I heard that our current work place coach and senior loudmouth arrogant runner broke the strike the last time. Some even got the manager to change their days off.

Now most of them stand lose not just money but the inability to be home before 1pm on easy round; they go around urging people.

No one should be intimidated into voting one way or the other and certainly the days of intimidating and name calling of strike breakers are behind us. Some might find themselves out of the job with stupid behaviour and calling people s*abs.

[joewyan]

If your working just your contract hours and not being exploited to do more you are in the 1%. Im part time. I have never worked just my contract hours for a single day here in 4 years. Regularly doing full time hours. Im voting yes because i want to be made up to reflect the actual work i do. Thats my reason to vote yes. RM need to stop this part time exploitation.

Yes you may be put under pressure to do more hours but you can say no!
You will be very unlikely to be put up to full time as hardly anyone is being put up these days regardless of the unions involvement or not.

I wish you well but if this is your reason for voting yes then I hope you have other reasons too.

[Walking boots]

When you're not doing so well, vote for a better life for yourself. If you are doing quite nicely, vote for a better life for others.

I'm not sure I'm doing well, I'm a part time Postie with no chance of being made full time, I worried about how much money I stand to lose by striking

[jack~jack]

I think that we must look at what we are being offered.No pay rise this year, a very small one next year that royalmail will decide on. £375 that will be taxed down to £300.A third of our pension stolen away. Later finishes, 5pm in dark, cold winter months and owning the workload, so working until the work is gone (should be good at Christmas). Make up your own mind, I definitely have!

[greengiant]

When you're not doing so well, vote for a better life for yourself. If you are doing quite nicely, vote for a better life for others.

I'm not sure I'm doing well, I'm a part time Postie with no chance of being made full time, I worried about how much money I stand to lose by striking

How much do you gain to lose long term by voting no?

[FelicityRae]

A yes vote doesn't make you obliged to strike though. It just gives the cwu a stronger hand on negotiating.

[Acca Dacca]

One thing that does annoy me is the union saying they won't accept a two tier workforce or worse terms for new starters yet allowed RM to do just that by putting people in DC scheme while keeping others in DB. Now many of those DC members, including myself will be voting for AND striking to help the DB members keep it.

Union didn't give a monkeys about bettering us in DC until DB was at risk.

[feduppostie]

While I understand the OP's position I would ask them this

What attracted you to this job?? Was it the hours? The pay? The sick pay? The pension? The guaranteed hours?

All these benefits we enjoy are these days head and shoulders above what many other employers offer - the reason for this is that we have a union - a union that has over many many years fought long and hard to get these conditions for us - and yes on occasion we have had to strike to get or keep them, striking is never done on a whim it is done to fight for what we have and to keep it - without the union we would not have these

Take a look at newer employers like Amazon or Sports Direct - google what it is like to work for them - it makes very grim reading indeed - without strikes and the union we would be where they are

None of us want to strike, a strong return on the ballot may mean we do not have to strike, but if we have to we will

[Spedley]

One thing that does annoy me is the union saying they won't accept a two tier workforce or worse terms for new starters yet allowed RM to do just that by putting people in DC scheme while keeping others in DB. Now many of those DC members, including myself will be striking to help the DB members keep it.

Union didn't give a monkeys about bettering us in DC until DB was at risk.

We won't be keeping the DB scheme. It is no longer sustainable now that nobody new since 2008 is paying into it. The only real option is to unify everyone's pension so we are all on the same terms. As a current DB holder I expect to be much worse off, however I still expect we will all be better off than with what RM are offering. I simply cannot afford to retire on that ... ever.

[Acca Dacca]

One thing that does annoy me is the union saying they won't accept a two tier workforce or worse terms for new starters yet allowed RM to do just that by putting people in DC scheme while keeping others in DB. Now many of those DC members, including myself will be striking to help the DB members keep it.

Union didn't give a monkeys about bettering us in DC until DB was at risk.

We won't be keeping the DB scheme. It is no longer sustainable now that nobody new since 2008 is paying into it. The only real option is to unify everyone's pension so we are all on the same terms. As a current DB holder I expect to be much worse off, however I still expect we will all be better off than with what RM are offering. I simply cannot afford to retire on that ... ever.

Who allowed RM to stop new memberspaying into it and instead into a DC?

[POSTMAN]

You are bold to start a thread with such a topic and I commend the administrators for letting you have your say.

if admin did delete this thread due to 99.9% disagreeing then the site should be shut down, nothing abusive or offensive, just someone's thoughts

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[Scrumpy]

Walking Boots, i'm voting NO, though it looks like a large Yes vote.
Been in job 3 years and part time, I really cannot see why Union Bosses calling for strike action, it's as if they are still in the 70's and have no idea on how modern large companies run,
and the Posties really have no idea how good they have got it, try working in a Supermarket, minimum wage, no paid breaks, no sick pay, 1% pension , I could go on.
Any strike will lead to a exodus of valuable business and really once the business is gone Royal Mail will do what they like as any future strike action will be laughed at as there will be no
prime customers to protect, only 2nd class mailshots and Ebay Packets,

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I am a member of the cwu and I appreciate what they have done for our terms and conditions, I will go with the majority but I haven't really heard an argument that is relevant to a part time worker with 1 years service

Not heard about the average hours worked when on leave. That's being pushed by the CWU, that ONLY affects Paty Timers, being put on the same pension as the rest of us, that's better than the pension you are on now.