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Do you have faith in the Royal Mail board?

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Do you have faith in the Royal Mail Board?

YES
10
3%
NO
316
97%
 
Total votes: 326

Brandy
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Post by Brandy »

osgoody1970 wrote:so SOB, what improvements do you see for the postperson of the future??? no sick pay, no pay rise? bullying managers, unjust delivery spans? unrealistic performance standards?, tell what improvements you would make to improve the life of the postal delivery person in the future???
Just ignore SOB he is just trying to get a reaction!!
Tman
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Post by Tman »

Brandy wrote:
worktotime wrote:clueless about the job , probably never done a manual days work in there lives.
Exactly you couldnt have worded it better!!!!!! :crazy:
It's 2017 and these daft comments belong in the past.
Does the top-knob in ICI (say) know how to mix paint in industrial quantities? Do the board of Boeing know how to rivet a wing or rebuild a jet engine?
The RM board are traditionally clueless but don't think that the "workforce" have some sort of advantage or moral high ground (or for dear old Jet, "own the company") because they don't.
Any future strike will be fought with the usual blend of managers, part timers and agency staff, and it will be a defining action in one way or the other.
rubberbond
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Post by rubberbond »

The poll question is confusing two issues. Do I have faith in the board? No. Will they cut and run? Yes (probably).
wheresourmoney
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Post by wheresourmoney »

I read a article somewhere that royal mail is run by mandarins rather than businessmen, seems apt.
clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

wheresourmoney wrote:I read a article somewhere that royal mail is run by mandarins rather than businessmen, seems apt.
Surely if they were mandarins, all communications would be in Chinese?
It's all Greek to me anyway.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
SierraOscarBravo
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Post by SierraOscarBravo »

Brandy wrote:
osgoody1970 wrote:so SOB, what improvements do you see for the postperson of the future??? no sick pay, no pay rise? bullying managers, unjust delivery spans? unrealistic performance standards?, tell what improvements you would make to improve the life of the postal delivery person in the future???
Just ignore SOB he is just trying to get a reaction!!

So you don't like hearing views from anyone who doesn't comply with yours? Are we all supposed to be sheep dutifully following what the union masters want us to believe?

Royal Mail is being held back by backward thinking from the unions who are still welded to the ideologies of the 1970s. The problem union members/activists have is they are not able to think independently. They have to keep up the macho "stick it to them" hostility towards management and authority. This simply would not be tolerated by any other company. Unfortunately Royal Mail is held hostage by union barons.
worktotime
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Post by worktotime »

Tman wrote:
Brandy wrote:
worktotime wrote:clueless about the job , probably never done a manual days work in there lives.
Exactly you couldnt have worded it better!!!!!! :crazy:
It's 2017 and these daft comments belong in the past.
Does the top-knob in ICI (say) know how to mix paint in industrial quantities? Do the board of Boeing know how to rivet a wing or rebuild a jet engine?
The RM board are traditionally clueless but don't think that the "workforce" have some sort of advantage or moral high ground (or for dear old Jet, "own the company") because they don't.
Any future strike will be fought with the usual blend of managers, part timers and agency staff, and it will be a defining action in one way or the other.
its the clowns above that come up with these new and great ideas , p&l ? world class mail ? and the rest of the crap which is just a waste of money and all this company will do is go round in circles , but they don't have a clue of the physical work that goes into job , anybody can go into a job and sit on there arse and cut f/t staff , cut deliverys , merge offices and sell property , increase workload , push workers into ihr , etc to line there own pockets , with your comment you tell me what this board has done to either improve the customer service or improve the job for the posties ? cut , cut , cut.
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

SierraOscarBravo wrote:
wacko74 wrote:
Phantom wrote:
SierraOscarBravo wrote:Easy to criticise the board and very popular to do so, but the board are not there to be popular. They are charged with putting the company on a sound commercial footing and taking the company forward. Their extensive private sector knowledge is welcome even if it will be sneered at by the union barons and their members.

Tough times lie ahead and it will require a ruthless, hard-headed approach to get Royal Mail into the best possible commercial shape to take on the challenges our industry faces.

Industrial action may be voted for. It may even happen. It will not, however, reap any benefits for those so eager to throw the company and their jobs over the cliff.
So you agree and have faith in the board. What are your reason for this - where have you seen new money, products and growth and future growth to increase revenues?

You'll be waiting a long time for this troll idiot to give you a satisfactory answer to that question.
If you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion, then please let's hear it.

The amount of products and services we offer customers has increased. Our tracked products are hugely important. The investment in PDAS that capture enormous amounts of tracking data, delivery methods equipment such as lightweight trolleys and HCTs are just a few areas where investment has been made.

Too many on here just want to be negative all the time instead of appreciating the positive improvements that have and continue to be made.
SOB,
On what basis do you comment "When you have something valid and worthwhile to contribute to the discussion then please feel free to do so" and "If you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion, then please let's hear it" ? :Applause
Do you claim to have great intelligence, more experience or wisdom denied to the rest of us ? :cuppa
Phantom
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Post by Phantom »

SierraOscarBravo wrote:
wacko74 wrote:
Phantom wrote:
SierraOscarBravo wrote:Easy to criticise the board and very popular to do so, but the board are not there to be popular. They are charged with putting the company on a sound commercial footing and taking the company forward. Their extensive private sector knowledge is welcome even if it will be sneered at by the union barons and their members.

Tough times lie ahead and it will require a ruthless, hard-headed approach to get Royal Mail into the best possible commercial shape to take on the challenges our industry faces.

Industrial action may be voted for. It may even happen. It will not, however, reap any benefits for those so eager to throw the company and their jobs over the cliff.
So you agree and have faith in the board. What are your reason for this - where have you seen new money, products and growth and future growth to increase revenues?

You'll be waiting a long time for this troll idiot to give you a satisfactory answer to that question.
If you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion, then please let's hear it.

The amount of products and services we offer customers has increased. Our tracked products are hugely important. The investment in PDAS that capture enormous amounts of tracking data, delivery methods equipment such as lightweight trolleys and HCTs are just a few areas where investment has been made.

Too many on here just want to be negative all the time instead of appreciating the positive improvements that have and continue to be made.
Tracked is not a new product, its been around for 10+years, pda's were here before privatisation and delivery methods don't make money.........Next?????????
CUT OFF!!!
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

Phantom wrote:
SierraOscarBravo wrote:
wacko74 wrote:
Phantom wrote:
SierraOscarBravo wrote:Easy to criticise the board and very popular to do so, but the board are not there to be popular. They are charged with putting the company on a sound commercial footing and taking the company forward. Their extensive private sector knowledge is welcome even if it will be sneered at by the union barons and their members.

Tough times lie ahead and it will require a ruthless, hard-headed approach to get Royal Mail into the best possible commercial shape to take on the challenges our industry faces.

Industrial action may be voted for. It may even happen. It will not, however, reap any benefits for those so eager to throw the company and their jobs over the cliff.
So you agree and have faith in the board. What are your reason for this - where have you seen new money, products and growth and future growth to increase revenues?

You'll be waiting a long time for this troll idiot to give you a satisfactory answer to that question.
If you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion, then please let's hear it.

The amount of products and services we offer customers has increased. Our tracked products are hugely important. The investment in PDAS that capture enormous amounts of tracking data, delivery methods equipment such as lightweight trolleys and HCTs are just a few areas where investment has been made.

Too many on here just want to be negative all the time instead of appreciating the positive improvements that have and continue to be made.
Tracked is not a new product, its been around for 10+years, pda's were here before privatisation and delivery methods don't make money.........Next?????????
Phantom,
Yes, indeed.
The hand carts that were the original version of today's trolleys go back to Victorian times, and I remember seeing something very like the HCT in a town centre nearly fifty years ago. :cuppa
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I'm at a loss as to anything really innovative these past few years. :arrrghhh
Phantom
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Post by Phantom »

rubberbond wrote:The poll question is confusing two issues. Do I have faith in the board? No. Will they cut and run? Yes (probably).
You're right and it's been corrected.
CUT OFF!!!
jetblack
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Post by jetblack »

Lounge Lizard wrote: I'm at a loss as to anything really innovative these past few years. :arrrghhh
Plastic bag ties instead of the traditional bit of string and a metal clip ??
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Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

jetblack wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote: I'm at a loss as to anything really innovative these past few years. :arrrghhh
Plastic bag ties instead of the traditional bit of string and a metal clip ??
But surely that's not within the last ten years. :shock:
gary1975
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Post by gary1975 »

SierraOscarBravo wrote:Easy to criticise the board and very popular to do so, but the board are not there to be popular. They are charged with putting the company on a sound commercial footing and taking the company forward. Their extensive private sector knowledge is welcome even if it will be sneered at by the union barons and their members.

Tough times lie ahead and it will require a ruthless, hard-headed approach to get Royal Mail into the best possible commercial shape to take on the challenges our industry faces.

Industrial action may be voted for. It may even happen. It will not, however, reap any benefits for those so eager to throw the company and their jobs over the cliff.
Come fly with me let's fly lets fly away :wave
SierraOscarBravo
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Post by SierraOscarBravo »

Lounge Lizard wrote:
SierraOscarBravo wrote:
wacko74 wrote:
Phantom wrote:
SierraOscarBravo wrote:Easy to criticise the board and very popular to do so, but the board are not there to be popular. They are charged with putting the company on a sound commercial footing and taking the company forward. Their extensive private sector knowledge is welcome even if it will be sneered at by the union barons and their members.

Tough times lie ahead and it will require a ruthless, hard-headed approach to get Royal Mail into the best possible commercial shape to take on the challenges our industry faces.

Industrial action may be voted for. It may even happen. It will not, however, reap any benefits for those so eager to throw the company and their jobs over the cliff.
So you agree and have faith in the board. What are your reason for this - where have you seen new money, products and growth and future growth to increase revenues?

You'll be waiting a long time for this troll idiot to give you a satisfactory answer to that question.
If you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion, then please let's hear it.

The amount of products and services we offer customers has increased. Our tracked products are hugely important. The investment in PDAS that capture enormous amounts of tracking data, delivery methods equipment such as lightweight trolleys and HCTs are just a few areas where investment has been made.

Too many on here just want to be negative all the time instead of appreciating the positive improvements that have and continue to be made.
SOB,
On what basis do you comment "When you have something valid and worthwhile to contribute to the discussion then please feel free to do so" and "If you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion, then please let's hear it" ? :Applause
Do you claim to have great intelligence, more experience or wisdom denied to the rest of us ? :cuppa
Try discussing the ISSUES raised on these boards rather than commenting on those posting with whom you may not agree. A recent post of yours was nothing more than personal abuse. If that is all you have to offer the discussion then I will leave others to judge the credibility of your posts.

I reiterate my support for the Royal Mail board. We really need to not look at everything as a "them and us" struggle. There are a lot of good, hardworking people in Royal Mail but they are too often overlooked or downtrodden by those who are bone idle and incompetent and happen to have union backing. Big changes are on the way for all of us and industrial action is not going to prevent those changes. All industrial action will do is pave the way for massive job losses.