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Batsugun
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Post by Batsugun »

Tman wrote:It's always been that way; if you're sick Mon-Fri and then Mon-Fri the following week then you must have been sick over the middle weekend too. Unless you can prove that there's separate reasons or separate illnesses you'll accumulate 12 days sick rather than ten no matter how many working days that would have been.

Really?
That is very odd. Never had any sickness so haven't really known the policy. I suppose it is the same for most companies then.
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Post by aiden01 »

Batsugun wrote:
Tman wrote:It's always been that way; if you're sick Mon-Fri and then Mon-Fri the following week then you must have been sick over the middle weekend too. Unless you can prove that there's separate reasons or separate illnesses you'll accumulate 12 days sick rather than ten no matter how many working days that would have been.

Really?
That is very odd. Never had any sickness so haven't really known the policy. I suppose it is the same for most companies then.
Don't know about other companies but that's how RM works.
Mobey
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Post by Mobey »

Batsugun wrote:
My main concern is
I was off for 14 "Earth days" but only 10 working days. So Royal mail are counting Sundays and days off as a sick day. A bit odd me thinks.
This is standard for every company I believe.

As simple answer to this when your sick your sick 24/7 Not just when your in work.
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Post by cpsteve »

97gaz wrote:So someone who's sick for 14 days over separate periods and only through the week get paid for all their absences while someone who has 14 days off in a row only gets paid 10 days sick?
We work 5 days a week thats what you get paid why would they pay us for days we do not work.
ripio
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Post by ripio »

steve1873 wrote:
Ask him where he studied medicine, and if he could kindly show you his PHD. You will be waiting at home until such time as he can provide it. Oh and file a grievance!
Most medical doctors don't have a PhD.
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Tman
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Post by Tman »

So what's your problem?
You think the info you're been told is wrong, or you think RM and every company's policies need to be rewritten to exclude Sundays in the sick day count?
Best of luck if it's the latter. :cuppa
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If they get their way you won't be paid for the first three days either and yes just like rest days and Sundays they'll still count as absences. What you get paid for or don't if you've actually run out of sick pay has nothing to do with how many days count towards your sick record.
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fishtank
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Look at it this way, sick absence is just a period of time you're unable to work for royal mail, it has to cover 24 hrs a day seven days a week from the minute you report sick to the minute you report back to work otherwise it wouldn't make any sense. You can't just be ill during your normal working hours or not on sundays. It has nothing to do with pay or contracted hours.

If you think of it like that it's entirely fair.
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Lounge Lizard
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fishtank wrote:Look at it this way, sick absence is just a period of time you're unable to work for royal mail, it has to cover 24 hrs a day seven days a week from the minute you report sick to the minute you report back to work otherwise it wouldn't make any sense. You can't just be ill during your normal working hours or not on sundays. It has nothing to do with pay or contracted hours.

If you think of it like that it's entirely fair.
Fishtank,
I quite understand.
Royal Mail has to cover 24 hours a day seven days a week and so that means that I must be paid for Sunday and my rest day, so that's 54.6 hours a week not 39 hours.
That's a 40% pay rise due, not just immediate but backdated the for twelve years I've worked for Royal Mail. :thumbup
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fishtank wrote:Look at it this way, sick absence is just a period of time you're unable to work for royal mail, it has to cover 24 hrs a day seven days a week from the minute you report sick to the minute you report back to work otherwise it wouldn't make any sense. You can't just be ill during your normal working hours or not on sundays. It has nothing to do with pay or contracted hours.

If you think of it like that it's entirely fair.
Fishtank,
I quite understand.
Royal Mail has to cover 24 hours a day seven days a week and so that means that I must be paid for Sunday and my rest day, so that's 54.6 hours a week not 39 hours.
That's a 40% pay rise due, not just immediate but backdated the for twelve years I've worked for Royal Mail. :thumbup