How will you vote?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Right thats enough, unless this thread gets a lot more civil I will close it down.

People aren't stupid for voting or supporting a particular party, neither are they naive. They at least exercised their Democratic duty. If you can't debate someone else's opinion without name calling or put downs then you can never expect to change their minds.

Now everyone please show some respect to the processes and debate like the adults you are.

[baldrick]

Apologies tbt.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Apologies tbt.

Actually, your unamended post was put on just a few seconds before I posted mine, so thanks for editing it.

[mickeymacca]

The irony is the Tories (in numbers) got a massive vote, their biggest since 1992. They lost seats in England but somehow gained many in their Scottish desert. Labour had the most since 2001. It does show though what the maximum performance is for a far-left zealot. he pretty much got everybody out who was ever going to vote Labour and still lost handsomely in terms of seats. That said, May or the Cons. need to take on board the social message Labour gave here, as they will likely have the same working majority as before with the 10 DUP seats onside and SF not taking theirs up.

So the irony is, Scotland have given us another Tory admin! What we don't need is another bloody General Election though, indyref2 is dead in the water, Sturgeon can STFU and Salmond lost his seat to the Cons, so it's not all gloom.

I would n't interpret events like that busted. I think this gives Corbyn a platform, his own party might fully back him now, thousands of youth are politicised.
The conservatives are in a right old pickle, and there is a bit of an irony that the DUP hold the balance of power, given their former links with Unionist terrorism, and the concerted campaign to highlight Corbyn's links to terrorism during the campaign. A return of Farage?
Interesting times ahead........

[bustedflush]

Things are too divided and clearly defined now for Corbyn to ever win. He carefully avoided 'awkward' points on Brexit and immigration and defence and concentrated on appealing to the young and young parents, a decent strategy despite the insane promises he made that would wreck the economy and then result in being booted out for another austerity mad Tory administration, but with an even worse deficit. May was hopeless, simple as that. Despite the media focussing on the May negatives and the BBC barely able to conceal their Marxist delight when the exit poll appeared, she significantly raised the Tory vote like Corbyn did Labour.

The whole affair came down the exactly WHERE the votes were placed. The safe Labour seats experienced reduced majorities as the Tories scooped up the non-Labour votes. The SNP suffered and in the end the net result was Labour did better in the Tory-held marginals where Labour were in second place last time. So the votes are now polarized far more and in such a way that despite Corbyn's optimum performance, there aren't enough seats with the demographic that he could win to add to this maximised performance he put in. In other words there are far too many seats that Labour can't win with a far-left loon as their leader that he would never increase the 260 to 330 for a majority Labour government. The fist-pumping leftist TV media will finally face up to this fact (actually whatshisface the old Blair PR bloke, sorry can't recall his name right now) was the only one I saw mention this.

So as well as the Tories having to do some serious introspection, so will Labour. There is about 50% of his party who are against him and don't believe they will win with him as leader as last night proved. And next time the Tories won't get it so wrong, especially if they replace her with a big-hitter like Bumbling Boris. I don't think there will be another election though as Brexit is more urgent. You may get one after the Brexit deal has been finalized though. So despite the her suicidal campaign, you have her party taking the biggest number of votes in a generation, simply because so many voters still saw her as the lesser of two evils and kept Corbyn out.

So it's basically 'as you were' - a Tory government with a small majority having replaced a few MP's with DUP ones. Proved very little did this election, other than UKIP are finished (which we all knew when 'leave' was chosen), Corbyn is too far left to win outright and May was abysmal. Move along....

[k979aaa]

So at the end of the day we are held to ransom by unionist terrorists for god-sake and backed by the conservative party who would have thought that before but hay ho and don't have a go at me for the terrorists quote same was said of Sinn Fein. So they know what they want and direct rule would suit them but could this be the end of peace in NI Twenty years ago a bloke named Blair did broker a peace in NI about the only good thing he did in his time but to be held to ransom by the DUP really is the worst of all!

[Judgee]

And contrary to the constant diatribes of some on here the electorate have clearly rejected a 'hard' Brexit.

Rubbish you are just reading into it what you'd like to see nothing more!

[Judgee]

Yeah - I think you need to now STFU Busted - along with quite a few others on here.

I've watched for months, if not years, you and your kind on here mock, ridicule and villify the Labour Party under Corbyn. You've assured us all, time after time after time after time, that he is unelectable. You have shouted very loudly indeed - so much so that you have created a completely false impression, on this forum, of real sentiment toward the Labour Party.

But Labour just took 40% of the vote vs the Conservatives 42.5%. Which leaves yourself with a great amount of egg on your face old son.

In short, you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I do.

So in future, know your place, show some humility, and don't come on here to tell the working man and woman to vote against their own interests ever again.

You still lost want a tissue?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

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[k979aaa]

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[jetblack]

So it's basically 'as you were'

No - its far far from "as you were".

The whole of the UK political landscape has changed overnight - for reasons too numerous for me to go into at this point. But TBH, I'd have thought the reasons were self evident to anyone with any kind of political awareness.

[Chimps_tea_party]

I wonder why some people on this site belong to a trade union given their political persuasion.

[k979aaa]

So Corbyn is a former IRA sympathiser yet May is current supporter of the DUP a democratically elected terrorist organisation well I never!

[mickeymacca]

Things are too divided and clearly defined now for Corbyn to ever win. He carefully avoided 'awkward' points on Brexit and immigration and defence and concentrated on appealing to the young and young parents, a decent strategy despite the insane promises he made that would wreck the economy and then result in being booted out for another austerity mad Tory administration, but with an even worse deficit. May was hopeless, simple as that. Despite the media focussing on the May negatives and the BBC barely able to conceal their Marxist delight when the exit poll appeared, she significantly raised the Tory vote like Corbyn did Labour.

The whole affair came down the exactly WHERE the votes were placed. The safe Labour seats experienced reduced majorities as the Tories scooped up the non-Labour votes. The SNP suffered and in the end the net result was Labour did better in the Tory-held marginals where Labour were in second place last time. So the votes are now polarized far more and in such a way that despite Corbyn's optimum performance, there aren't enough seats with the demographic that he could win to add to this maximised performance he put in. In other words there are far too many seats that Labour can't win with a far-left loon as their leader that he would never increase the 260 to 330 for a majority Labour government. The fist-pumping leftist TV media will finally face up to this fact (actually whatshisface the old Blair PR bloke, sorry can't recall his name right now) was the only one I saw mention this.

So as well as the Tories having to do some serious introspection, so will Labour. There is about 50% of his party who are against him and don't believe they will win with him as leader as last night proved. And next time the Tories won't get it so wrong, especially if they replace her with a big-hitter like Bumbling Boris. I don't think there will be another election though as Brexit is more urgent. You may get one after the Brexit deal has been finalized though. So despite the her suicidal campaign, you have her party taking the biggest number of votes in a generation, simply because so many voters still saw her as the lesser of two evils and kept Corbyn out.

So it's basically 'as you were' - a Tory government with a small majority having replaced a few MP's with DUP ones. Proved very little did this election, other than UKIP are finished (which we all knew when 'leave' was chosen), Corbyn is too far left to win outright and May was abysmal. Move along....

I respectfully disagree with just about everything in this post.

Are you seriously suggesting the media was biased in favour of Corbyn? Maybe if Theresa May attempted to engage she would have received more favourable coverage from the BBC.

I recall after 2015 Labour would never win another election unless they won seats North of the border, well they won some and I would definitely see the Conservative gains there as being the most vulnerable going forward. As for the SNP they over performed in 2015 and these results were probably a correction of that.

There'll be another election within 5 years without a doubt, the government cannot continue if legislation is constantly voted down, especially also with Brexit negs. and a new leader for the Conservatives inevitable with the divisions within their party.

Not so sure UKIP have gone away. If Farage returns he does have massive popular appeal...........but at the expense of votes from which party?

[mickeymacca]

So it's basically 'as you were'

No - its far far from "as you were".

The whole of the UK political landscape has changed overnight - for reasons too numerous for me to go into at this point. But TBH, I'd have thought the reasons were self evident to anyone with any kind of political awareness.

Yeh bit of a weird comment that from bustedflush.......

quite pleased the chance of a minority government headed by Corbyn is not going to come to fruition, I think the party will be better placed to take advantage of the ensuing car-crash of a government that is going to carry us 'forward' in the next few months....