Todays Briefing

hotshot · Post by **hotshot** » 25 Oct 2007, 15:54

Just spoken to my Area Rep on the phone he says the National Briefing did not go
well for the PEC stick from all corners of the Country it would seem not many of our Reps
think its a good deal, Dave Ward did his best to sell it,but it looks like lots of reps
will be putting foreward a No as a recommendation to there branches.
Sorry Dave you cannot Polish a Turd and this agreement is a Turd.

Post by **stephen500** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:17

My area rep confirms 'slating'!

wakkono · Post by **wakkono** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:29

my area rep refused to comment all he sais was make up your own mind

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:32

Does anyone know the procedure required for removing sitting union officials? There must be some emergency method other than referring it to the NDC. If we fail to install representatives willing to prosecute our cause very soon we will have lost our union. Many better informed members are already quiting; as soon as the practical effects of this sell out deal begin to bite others will leave in droves.
Don't think we have time to waste.

wakkono · Post by **wakkono** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:36

i think the cwu is just about finished no more can anyone use the argument about supporting your union when the cwu agree things like they just have royal mail are laughing they havnt had to break the union the cwu have just done it thereselves

Post by **stephen500** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:46

wakkono wrote: royal mail are laughing they havnt had to break the union the cwu have just done it thereselves

It makes me sad to say it, but i have to agree with you!
Unless we manage to retrieve the situation through local reps advocating and getting a 'no' vote.

Then we might be able to recover.

Post by **semacsorter** » 25 Oct 2007, 16:59

If we get a no vote and i hope we do then surely we have to pick new people to take it forward because the present incumbrents have proved unable to and surely dick and dorf wont take notice of them having given up once !!

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:23

I would not say the union has broken itself, the words traitors and betrayal spring to mind. We are the union ,we fund our union ,work for our union ,we elect people to do the job of representing our interests. If people are unwilling ,unable or incapable of that we must sack them. If we can not carry out our jobs in a satisfactory manner we get sacked ,there are no exceptions.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:29

As far as I'm concerned, this ballot will be a vote on the deal and a vote of confidence or no confidence in the leadership of the CWU. I'll be voting no to the deal and no to the leadership of the CWU. Mind you, if they have any integrity, they would stand down anyway.

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:37

I think this deal clearly indicates how much integrity our union managers possess, and their hush hush confidentiality ,we will let you know when it's good for you mentality demonstrates exactly their opinion of the membership.

saru · Post by **saru** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:40

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:As far as I'm concerned, this ballot will be a vote on the deal and a vote of confidence or no confidence in the leadership of the CWU. I'll be voting no to the deal and no to the leadership of the CWU. Mind you, if they have any integrity, they would stand down anyway.

Integrity, what's that? I doubt they can spell it, judging by the time it took them to pore over the "amended" agreement, never mind have any understanding of the word!!! Can we add loyalty to that, too?

blackadder · Post by **blackadder** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:41

ok, so we vote no and they all meet up again. how is dave ward gona get us a better deal when hes agreed to this 1 ???

Post by **disheartened** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:43

BELIAL wrote:I think this deal clearly indicates how much integrity our union managers possess, and their hush hush confidentiality ,we will let you know when it's good for you mentality demonstrates exactly their opinion of the membership.

Yea....but i am sure there'll make good "members Of Parliment"

Post by **Paul Turnbull** » 25 Oct 2007, 17:43

I believe that we must get a no vote but a campaign will be necessary.

A meeting is taking place, to organise for a no vote, on Saturday 27 October ,2.30pm, Vernon Square campus of SOAS, Penton Rise, London, WC1X, Just off King's Cross Road.

Dave Warren , PEC member, will be speaking AGAINST the deal.

If you really are opposed to this deal please try to make it.

Also speak to your reps as Branch officials will be meeting soon to make Branch recommendations!

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 25 Oct 2007, 21:14

hotshot wrote:Sorry Dave you cannot Polish a Turd and this agreement is a Turd.

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