Overtime ban

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 02 Jun 2017, 18:36

Sbutts8182 wrote:Manager this morning read us an email from the top that wants 1 in 4 duties lapsed during the summer with no overtime to be booked, starting Monday.

why doesnt he ask for world peace if he wants a miracle?

Post by **eastie** » 02 Jun 2017, 19:00

Sbutts8182 wrote:Manager this morning read us an email from the top that wants 1 in 4 duties lapsed during the summer with no overtime to be booked, starting Monday.

Us as well South east

answer=42 · Post by **answer=42** » 02 Jun 2017, 19:05

Veeeeeeery Interesting. Wondered what was going on today. No cutting off. No calling in to say you can't complete. You WILL get the job done. IWT says so. You must be underperforming. If you can't do that in time you're a waste of space.
I predict a riot.

With apologies and acknowledgement to the Kaiser Chiefs and sung to the tune of 'I predict a riot'

Watching the posties get lairy
It's not very pretty I tell thee
The IWT's quite scary
The logic really escapes me
A friend of mine he got conduct
He nested a door to door product
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I tried to get to my Combi
The man called DOM he attacked me
He said that he wanted to sack me
And wants to get things a bit gory
Says the numbers tell a real story
(If you believe Jackanory)
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
And if there's anybody left in here
That doesn't want to be out there
Watching the posties get lairy
It's not very pretty I tell thee
The IWT it's quite scary
It don't treat our preppers fairly
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
And if there's anybody left in here
That doesn't want to be out there (beyond their contracted hours without overtime)
I PREDICT A FRIGGIN' RIOT

Jpro747 · Post by **Jpro747** » 03 Jun 2017, 16:23

Hahahaha

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 03 Jun 2017, 17:28

Creditshampoo wrote:Many walks failed. All told to take what we didn't deliver today tomorrow etc etc. Shall I inform my MP?

email Moya , justsayit , they wont have a clue this is going on and take it very serious , take photos of the mail left because everything in the frame has to be delivered , its wilful delay on a massive scale down to them , I can tell you if you do watch the dims arses start twitching and it wont happen again, lol

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 03 Jun 2017, 17:30

i wouldnt go taking photos on RM premises and then sending it to Moya or anyone else for that matter with my name attached

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 03 Jun 2017, 17:34

Creditshampoo wrote:Is there anything I can do apart from emailing moya and my area rep?
Mail is piling up

It is not your problem you do not need to do nothing other than do your job in the time allowed!

Post by **Brandy** » 04 Jun 2017, 09:40

Sbutts8182 wrote:Manager this morning read us an email from the top that wants 1 in 4 duties lapsed during the summer with no overtime to be booked, starting Monday.

Oh dear I wonder how many at the top have ever been posties!! None I expect

Post by **Brandy** » 04 Jun 2017, 09:44

answer=42 wrote:Veeeeeeery Interesting. Wondered what was going on today. No cutting off. No calling in to say you can't complete. You WILL get the job done. IWT says so. You must be underperforming. If you can't do that in time you're a waste of space.
I predict a riot.

With apologies and acknowledgement to the Kaiser Chiefs and sung to the tune of 'I predict a riot'

Watching the posties get lairy
It's not very pretty I tell thee
The IWT's quite scary
The logic really escapes me
A friend of mine he got conduct
He nested a door to door product
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I tried to get to my Combi
The man called DOM he attacked me
He said that he wanted to sack me
And wants to get things a bit gory
Says the numbers tell a real story
(If you believe Jackanory)
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
And if there's anybody left in here
That doesn't want to be out there
Watching the posties get lairy
It's not very pretty I tell thee
The IWT it's quite scary
It don't treat our preppers fairly
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
I predict a riot
And if there's anybody left in here
That doesn't want to be out there (beyond their contracted hours without overtime)
I PREDICT A FRIGGIN' RIOT

So funny!!

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 04 Jun 2017, 14:19

clashcityrocker wrote: Election material doesn't effect the lapsing plan.

It does in my office, maybe indirectly.

DOM: He's your lapsing Newie.
ME: No can do, I have 1500 leaflets to prep in two days.
DOM: waffle waffle
ME: Fine, I'll take it but I'll need to leave half my duty in order to finish on time. You might want to catch one of the full timers that left the office an hour ago.
DOM: shuffles away with lapsing

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 04 Jun 2017, 14:42

Then I understand where RM are coming from.
There seems to be a lot of people who want election material moved into workload and consequently should accept that the payment will be removed.

parforthewalk · Post by **parforthewalk** » 04 Jun 2017, 17:17

answer=42 wrote:Veeeeeeery Interesting. Wondered what was going on today. No cutting off. No calling in to say you can't complete. You WILL get the job done. IWT says so. You must be underperforming. If you can't do that in time you're a waste of space.

The IWT is a planning value used for resourcing, it's NOT an individual performance value measurement. Managers try this on all the time with staff.. it's BS.

The only agreed performance value/test is the 1 minute prep test & there has to be a good/valid reason to undertake this.

The majority of performance issues are down to how managers don't manage the hours either efficiently or effectively in the office, which isn't your problem!

If they persist with their nonsense, just tell them politely to go away & leave you alone as you are feeling harassed!
It's worked for me..grasshopper

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 04 Jun 2017, 19:54

clashcityrocker wrote:Then I understand where RM are coming from.
There seems to be a lot of people who want election material moved into workload and consequently should accept that the payment will be removed.

I'd be happy with either outcome.

1. Here's 1000 election leaflets, would you like to deliver them for 3p a shot? Let me know, your choice.

or

2. Traffic is heavy this week due to election material, no lapsing. See DOM support and union rep for over-running procedure.

Not happy with the current vague setup. Threats, lies, unfairness, forced overtime sometimes unpaid. A couple of hours work just dumped on a part timers frame and the expectation he will magically deliver it all.

Stunl3y · Post by **Stunl3y** » 04 Jun 2017, 19:56

My office are working to rule at this present time , walks are not going out, stuff is being brought back, its all pilling up and all you get is the manager shrugging his shoulders saying the area manager don't give a toss. Isn't it about time the public knew what was going on and managers held accountable , isn't it about time they knew up and down the land that RM are happy to delay mail that has items paid for next day delivery etc. I delivered my lapsing on Saturday as it was the first timer in 3 days I had time , that mail had sat in the frame for 3 days along with recorded and tracked items. The driver who does my area has a york full of parcels that have sat there for 4 days now and are still sitting there now because the Area manager wont let or manager staff up .

Post by **POSTMAN** » 04 Jun 2017, 21:14

Contact your local papers/MP's and justsayit for good measure.
And it's not very hard to sneakily take a pic here and there but be extra careful.
It's a no brainer for me.

'If' you're up for it, be seriously careful with the pic thing.