Grasping at at ever decreasing straws.Your telling me that this PM who as Home Secretary along with MI6 transported potential terrorist to and from Libya and then never monitored them on their return is irrelevant to the victims of Manchester and other potential victims and there should be no enquiry,no apology and nobody in government held to account....Aye very illogicalTman wrote: The world you inhabit must be that one where "ah yeah but, what about..." logic rules.
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Tman
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Not being a May supporter I'm not telling you anything, but to reiterate, to keep on pointing out the (very real) failings of the present doesn't in any way diminish or exonerate Corbyn and co's extremely serious actions in supporting those who wished the UK and it's citizens harm in the past. You've clearly not ten anymore, so stop using a ten year old's logic.
It wouldn't take the genius of Stephen Hawking to make the connection (or even forecast) of what would happen in future re ISIS (or any one of it's many names or affiliates), a resurgent IRA (post Brexit) and other more conventional military situations should the little bearded fool get in to power, and then there's the imminent Brexit negotiations in a couple of weeks; we're led to believe they're going to be "hard" and the thought of this little weasel actually achieving any sort of progress against experienced political negotiators is a fantasy.
A difficult question in an interview gets him shrinking back into his shell and going all defensive, so God help the UK if he was ever really called to stand up for us.
(Probably surround himself with his multi-ethnic all-female entourage and hide away somewhere again.)
It wouldn't take the genius of Stephen Hawking to make the connection (or even forecast) of what would happen in future re ISIS (or any one of it's many names or affiliates), a resurgent IRA (post Brexit) and other more conventional military situations should the little bearded fool get in to power, and then there's the imminent Brexit negotiations in a couple of weeks; we're led to believe they're going to be "hard" and the thought of this little weasel actually achieving any sort of progress against experienced political negotiators is a fantasy.
A difficult question in an interview gets him shrinking back into his shell and going all defensive, so God help the UK if he was ever really called to stand up for us.
(Probably surround himself with his multi-ethnic all-female entourage and hide away somewhere again.)
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Corbyn doesn't have any Government or Ministerial experience because he kept voting against his own party and being a "right on" campaigner for causes that appeals to his Marxist-Leninist viewpoints, he even wrote columns in a British Communist newspaper.
He wanted the MI5/M6/Special Branch closed down and the Falklands handed over to the Argentinians.
All of this makes him unsuitable for Prime Minster.
I judge a man not by what says but by what he does.
His past and current performance doesn't inspire any confidence in me.
He wanted the MI5/M6/Special Branch closed down and the Falklands handed over to the Argentinians.
All of this makes him unsuitable for Prime Minster.
I judge a man not by what says but by what he does.
His past and current performance doesn't inspire any confidence in me.
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tonytucker wrote:Seriously who are the 8 people voting lib dem !
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
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how do you know that with non intervention the problem wouldnt be far worse right now ?fishtank wrote:Ok.It's right that we should confront Jihadists
What's your plan?
Every attempt by western governments to confront Jihadist extremism head on has failed and not just failed but proper f****d up failed by making the situation worse and increasing the danger of terrorist attacks not only in western countries but more frequently in the countries where we have intervened.
I can hear a lot of blowhard, let's kick some ass, get tough shite but I'm not seeing even the tiniest glimpse of an idea that isn't same s**t-different day. Remind me what Einstein didn't say about the definition of insanity...
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I'm voting Lib Dem.tonytucker wrote:Seriously who are the 8 people voting lib dem !
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How on earth anyone can vote for that party is beyond me.ysbrydtawel wrote:I'm voting Lib Dem.tonytucker wrote:Seriously who are the 8 people voting lib dem !
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Simple, all the still-existing Remoaners believing Tigger Farron when he says he'll rerun the referendum if he gets into power.
Pointless gesture politics, as beloved by the old Fraud and his Broad..
Pointless gesture politics, as beloved by the old Fraud and his Broad..
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Exactly,anyone who thinks terrorising a defenceless animal and then watching it torn to shreds is something we should accept,is beneath contempt and tother one supports the IRA,oh wellnorm wrote:Wonder how many of the Conservative voters know that Theresa May wants to reintroduce fox hunting.
Completely deplorable, and sums up perfectly who the conservatives represent, the privileged elite.
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LABOUR . Never voted labour in the past but it's the only way we can Ger
T this company back on track
T this company back on track
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Give me a single sentence or link showing where or when Corbyn supported the IRA, because it never happened. Try thinking for yourself instead of repeating what the papers tell you.tiggle wrote:Exactly,anyone who thinks terrorising a defenceless animal and then watching it torn to shreds is something we should accept,is beneath contempt and tother one supports the IRA,oh well
He spoke with Sinn Fein about peace. He never met or spoke with members of the IRA. Is it really so deplorable that a prime minister should want to end the suffering of innocent civilians and find a peaceful solution? People on Question Time the other night got furious that he wouldn't commit to a first strike with Trident, as if vaporising millions of civilians and then resigning millions of your own to the same fate is something to be proud of. Nobody should ever commit to a first strike, that's not what they're for, yet that's exactly what May has done. May also openly supports Saudi Arabia, the number one contributor to Islamist extremist, the rise of ISIS and arguably as a result the Manchester attack, and yet it's Corbyn who's the threat?
Margaret Thatcher also spoke with the IRA. Everyone seems to think we should be cheering on the British Army like it was all just a game, forgetting that for almost 100 years, we murdered hundreds of civilians, including firing on crowds at a football match with machine guns. People were thrown out of their homes and shot in the street while houses were burnt by the hundreds. British soldiers burned Cork to the ground and stopped firefighters getting in to help. We are allowed to admit that maybe Britain is sometimes in the wrong, especially when we policed Ireland like the Gestapo.
None of that excuses what the IRA did, but it wasn't 'good guys vs bad guys', and Corbyn wanted peace, nothing more. To say a devoted pacifist supported a terrorist organisation is insane, and it makes anyone who believes and repeats these lies look equally stupid.
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Tman
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he very likely did, but as at that time he was nothing but a grubby self-serving back bencher open to any ostensibly Left Wing struggle, it could only be in passing.He spoke with Sinn Fein about peace.
He never had the power or the backing of anyone or any committee who could even begin to negotiate terms with the IRA or it's "public face", Sinn Fein, he was there for nothing more than the self-promotion of Jeremy Corbyn.
At best he was nothing more than a useful idiot talking up Left Wing causes, while at worst he was another of those people who spend their lives in conflict with the very system which sustains their useless and pointless existences.
At the time of his various meetings, photo-ops, and public demonstrations way back then the Left Wing Media, the Labour Party and the House of Commons were all highly critical of his actions, but fast forward and the Corbyn apologists are splashing around the whitewash while frantically attempting to rewrite history.
Corbyn etc said these things, they did these things and they made sure the media were there and knew what they were doing in that "high on ambition but low on talent" way that minor politicians have, and it's all too late....it's on record.
Sure, he never fired a gun at an IRA funeral or planted a bomb to kill kids, but his sentiments were clear enough.
He also stated his support for Hezbollah and Hammas, although given the anti-Semitism apparently rife in the Labour Party that's some thing else to be kept quiet about.
A fraud through and through.
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Well now someone had a rant and a half there but after nigh on 45 years of capitalism are we the working people any better off? For not let us forget New Labour was a party of the right even the sun backed Blair. But we can make our county great again by voting for a proper labour party and a decent future for all not just the few!
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When Theresa May called a snap election I had little hope that Labour could win but she has become a shrinking violet despite her strong leadership campaign she has imo been shown up as week and afraid of appearing to speak in public which has seriously damaged her reputation
Despite all the publicity trying to support the Tories Ithink Labour and Corbin have a real chance now, never known so much interest in politics from young people and almost all of them are voting Labour.
Straight talking appeals to most people
Love the song about May "Liar Liar" which the radio stations are refusing to play despite it. Going to No. 1 in the down load chart!!
Despite all the publicity trying to support the Tories Ithink Labour and Corbin have a real chance now, never known so much interest in politics from young people and almost all of them are voting Labour.
Straight talking appeals to most people
Love the song about May "Liar Liar" which the radio stations are refusing to play despite it. Going to No. 1 in the down load chart!!