Why I won't bother joining unions

robbertwhitton · Post by **robbertwhitton** » 21 May 2017, 09:30

And you would want to use your own car to help this firm out because?........?

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 21 May 2017, 11:03

robbertwhitton wrote:And you would want to use your own car to help this firm out because?........?

For the same reason most posties use their back instead of the trolley provided.
It is quicker.

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 21 May 2017, 15:00

Great let's all cut corners and we can makes ourselves redundant

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 23 May 2017, 18:14

TheTrolleyMan wrote:Great let's all cut corners and we can makes ourselves redundant

Very True TM. And it's these type of idiots ,who have been blissfully pleasing themselves, doing whatever they feel like for years, who suddenly act all surprised and upset when the redundancies start. "I really loved this job... I can't understand why they've got to make people redundant"

A Colleague hit the nail on the head the other day, when we were discussing the latest selfish/piss taking act in the office. He said they're the kind of Posties that think, "We'll do as little as possible, for a much as possible and f**k everyone else"!

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 25 May 2017, 10:08

I do over 6000miles a year commuting at my expense, RM couldn't pay me to use my car on delivery even if it were an option.

Post69 · Post by **Post69** » 25 May 2017, 10:39

I've been a postman for 30 year's and the first week I started the topic of conversation was private cars on delivery we even had the local police on the invitation from the union give a talk to spell it out on how much said people are leaving themselves wide open (insurance wise amongst other things) but postmen/women so I'm told because I'm on the distribution network now still come in early and use there own car's?...... completely mad! And another thing which is mind boggling mad is not joining the union especially at the moment with what potential crap we have cumming our way! If I can give any advice from my years in the job is for heaven's sake and your sake join the union!!!!!

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 25 May 2017, 20:46

Post69 wrote:I've been a postman for 30 year's and the first week I started the topic of conversation was private cars on delivery we even had the local police on the invitation from the union give a talk to spell it out on how much said people are leaving themselves wide open (insurance wise amongst other things) but postmen/women so I'm told because I'm on the distribution network now still come in early and use there own car's?...... completely mad! And another thing which is mind boggling mad is not joining the union especially at the moment with what potential crap we have cumming our way! If I can give any advice from my years in the job is for heaven's sake and your sake join the union!!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS! Post69. 30 years in the job and your 1st post on RMC

That's Genuine not a piss take mate. Your advice is VERY relevant at this time. IMPO we'll be out on strike over these raids on our pensions... that is if the "Jellyfish" don't vote NO!

Post69 · Post by **Post69** » 25 May 2017, 23:16

Dorset Plodder wrote:
Post69 wrote:I've been a postman for 30 year's and the first week I started the topic of conversation was private cars on delivery we even had the local police on the invitation from the union give a talk to spell it out on how much said people are leaving themselves wide open (insurance wise amongst other things) but postmen/women so I'm told because I'm on the distribution network now still come in early and use there own car's?...... completely mad! And another thing which is mind boggling mad is not joining the union especially at the moment with what potential crap we have cumming our way! If I can give any advice from my years in the job is for heaven's sake and your sake join the union!!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS! Post69. 30 years in the job and your 1st post on RMC That's Genuine not a piss take mate. Your advice is VERY relevant at this time. IMPO we'll be out on strike over these raids on our pensions... that is if the "Jellyfish" vote NO!

Well I can't believe some people (sorry for being so blunt) are so dumb and put a thread on why I won't bother joining a union?, Over the years I've had brilliant union reps and some not so good but not once I've ever thought of leaving the union you can't blame the union in general for a rep who doesn't cut the mustard so to speak! Watch and listen to the video that Terry pullinger has just put out and that is one very good reason why we ALL need to be in and support the CWU!,I just normally read this forum as I've never felt the need to put my views on it but this "why I won't bother joining unions" is totally crazy IMO!

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 26 May 2017, 17:16

I take it the OP will be crossing the picket line?
Because if you're not in the union you'll have no choice

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 26 May 2017, 17:24

Creditshampoo wrote:I take it the OP will be crossing the picket line?
Because if you're not in the union you'll have no choice

A non union member can still go on strike.
One still has the choice to not cross the picket line.

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 26 May 2017, 18:21

clashcityrocker wrote:
Creditshampoo wrote:I take it the OP will be crossing the picket line?
Because if you're not in the union you'll have no choice
A non union member can still go on strike.
One still has the choice to not cross the picket line.

Yea and get sacked

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 26 May 2017, 19:13

A non union colleague who refuses to cross a picket line or simply doesn't turn up to work during industrial action can not be sacked.
It even says so on the government website:

Non-union staff and striking
If non-union members go on strike, they are protected from dismissal and have the same rights as union members, as long as the industrial action is lawful.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 26 May 2017, 19:31

clashcityrocker wrote:A non union colleague who refuses to cross a picket line or simply doesn't turn up to work during industrial action can not be sacked.
It even says so on the government website:

Non-union staff and striking
If non-union members go on strike, they are protected from dismissal and have the same rights as union members, as long as the industrial action is lawful.

I suppose what is worse is if a Postie is in the CWU and ignores a picket line to go in to work. We've already got one Dickhead saying, "Well you know I don't agree with striking"!

I suppose it would be different if he was the one on the end of a Disciplinary Hearing and he expected the CWU to support him!

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 26 May 2017, 19:57

You try telling royal mail that

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 26 May 2017, 19:58

Engaging with non members can be the difference between winning or losing an industrial dispute, it's important that members don't see them as enemies simply because they don't want to join the union. I've never had a non member blatantly cross a picket line I've been on, that's not to say they haven't gone to other sites to work but there's not much you can do about that these days.

Most non members realise that undermining the industrial action does them no favours and it's up to us to get that message across and avoid an us and them scenario.