Made my day today

Destiny · Post by **Destiny** » 13 Mar 2017, 20:33

eastie wrote:Everyone who comes back before their finish time has to do D2D's for all the other rounds before they can go home .
The early starter/runners/ ghost overtimers were going ballistic.
Wonder if they will come in early tomorrow.
This was bought in by the union, not before time and should stop more hours being taken out the delivery office

Any details how this was agreed/enforced eastie?

Spedley · Post by **Spedley** » 13 Mar 2017, 20:50

So the runners have to sit a lay-by for and hour before them come back to the office whilst the others prep tomorrow's D2D for them so the runners can finish even earlier.

Sounds like a fair plan ... not.

Post by **eastie** » 13 Mar 2017, 21:00

Spedley wrote:So the runners have to sit a lay-by for and hour before them come back to the office whilst the others prep tomorrow's D2D for them so the runners can finish even earlier.

Sounds like a fair plan ... not.

Maybe then they wont run round and finish at the proper finish time like all the rest that will then stop any more hours being taken out of the office. Its the runners / early starters that caused the lapsing problem in the 1st place

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 13 Mar 2017, 21:46

Spedley wrote:So the runners have to sit a lay-by for and hour before them come back to the office whilst the others prep tomorrow's D2D for them so the runners can finish even earlier.

Sounds like a fair plan ... not.

Managers could look on the PDA tracking to see where then the next day park up nearby and catch them red handed

kingeric · Post by **kingeric** » 14 Mar 2017, 08:32

Spedley wrote:So the runners have to sit a lay-by for and hour before them come back to the office whilst the others prep tomorrow's D2D for them so the runners can finish even earlier.

Sounds like a fair plan ... not.

Sounds like you don't really get it. If they finish even earlier tomorrow they'll be prepping for the following day. And the runners I know won't sit in a lay by they'd rather run faster to get the d2d done even earlier to get away early. So more fool them.

datasaint · Post by **datasaint** » 14 Mar 2017, 14:10

citypostie wrote:And anyone who likes to sit in the van between loops then claims because they go over or cuts off will be in big trouble

Doubt it, the union won't agree to snooping tools like that being used for performance issues.

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 14 Mar 2017, 16:36

Id be happy to have a tracker on my trolley , nothing to hide , just doing my 43 hrs a week

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 14 Mar 2017, 16:36

Destiny wrote:
eastie wrote:Everyone who comes back before their finish time has to do D2D's for all the other rounds before they can go home .
The early starter/runners/ ghost overtimers were going ballistic.
Wonder if they will come in early tomorrow.
This was bought in by the union, not before time and should stop more hours being taken out the delivery office
Any details how this was agreed/enforced eastie?

Its actually part of the 2010 Agreement, specifically the "Work all Paid hours" section, and putting in, or prepping D2Ds would be considered a reasonable request. Doubt a rep could enter a disagreement on it, all they could do was make sure members were aware and that the application was done in a fair and consistent manner, and that any problems or issues are raised at the appropriate meetings,.

A2B · Post by **A2B** » 14 Mar 2017, 16:44

norm wrote:
citypostie wrote:And anyone who likes to sit in the van between loops then claims because they go over or cuts off will be in big trouble
Doubt it, the union won't agree to snooping tools like that being used for performance issues.

The Union may not agree to it but you can guarantee all the data the pda records is being studied very carefully at local level and nationally. Some will have nothing to hide but others are going to be in for a shock

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 14 Mar 2017, 16:57

Just remember that most PDA data is of people carrying a bag and not using trolleys / agreed methods for delivery

Gazza47 · Post by **Gazza47** » 14 Mar 2017, 17:05

TheTrolleyMan wrote:Just remember that most PDA data is of people carrying a bag and not using trolleys / agreed methods for delivery

If you use trolleys it can add an hour at least on your walk. I don't use them unless mad with packets at Xmas.

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 14 Mar 2017, 17:10

Trolleys are the agreed method of delivery . It's alright carry bags but when you knacker your back and your sick pay gets stopped well good luck

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 14 Mar 2017, 18:25

Gazza47 wrote:
TheTrolleyMan wrote:Just remember that most PDA data is of people carrying a bag and not using trolleys / agreed methods for delivery
If you use trolleys it can add an hour at least on your walk. I don't use them unless mad with packets at Xmas.

if it adds an hour on then so be it claim o/t for it or take it back

,its part of your job to use lwts unless its built into your duty that you cant use it for whatever reason no footpaths , flats etc. so you walk round with a bag on your back and when you get back to the van you drive round and delivery parcels or pkts out the van on the ground to have just walked ?

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 14 Mar 2017, 18:46

Well said . Also using trolleys protects jobs , people carrying bags needs to be a thing of the past . Use your trolley and either work your hours or claim excess

Gazza47 · Post by **Gazza47** » 14 Mar 2017, 18:50

worktotime wrote:
Gazza47 wrote:
TheTrolleyMan wrote:Just remember that most PDA data is of people carrying a bag and not using trolleys / agreed methods for delivery
If you use trolleys it can add an hour at least on your walk. I don't use them unless mad with packets at Xmas.
if it adds an hour on then so be it claim o/t for it or take it back ,its part of your job to use lwts unless its built into your duty that you cant use it for whatever reason no footpaths , flats etc. so you walk round with a bag on your back and when you get back to the van you drive round and delivery parcels or pkts out the van on the ground to have just walked ?

No fit the packets and parcels in the bag, any oversize gets delivered in the van. Don't get me wrong I do not run round but if it's quicker which carrying the bag is I do not see the problem.