How much are managers paid?

[bustedflush]

There is a scale:

DoM £67,589 + max 15% Performance.
Manager £54,875 + max 15% Performance
Lino £44,897 + max 15% perfomrance.

Performance Bonuses: (DOM rates, pro-rata to salary for managers/linos)

1. Bullying bonus:

0-5 Bullied £1,000

6-10 Bullied £2500

10+ Bullied £ 4,000

+£1k for each one that leaves as result if F/T, £750 if P/T to a max of 5 leavers.

2. Lapsing Bonus:

For each above leaver's round subsequently lapsed and forced onto rest of office:

Up to £5000 if none done on docket but forced into normal hours, sliding scale reduced down for every 10% not forced into normal hours, in £500 increments.

3. Purchase Orders Reductions bonus:

Complex, but essentially a percentage saving of office costs to a max of £3750 PA. Various items have different rates, (40% of the cost of each box of rubber bands for example, less than the average used for your size office). Each PDA battery not replaced when due has a 33.33% bonus rate, and all docket not entered and not spotted by the OPG's has a handsome 50% rate.

4. Management Substitute O/T bonus:

For each hour spent on frame, IPS or throwing off and not offering the work to an OPG, £5 (extra to salary already being paid) up to a maximum of 250 hours (£1250 lump sum) PA.

5. Spurious Disciplinary Supplement:

Basically on a 10% scale of savings made by dismissing OPG's entitled to IHR or EVR or ER as opposed to the 5-figure sums they would've been entitled to being Good Leavers.

6. Survey Payment:

A fixed £500 sum for having 95%+ Employee Satisfaction Surveys returned on time with the correct boxes checked to ensure a minimum 80% total satisfaction rate among OPG's.


(i) The combined payment of the above bonuses shall not exceed 15% of the Gross Salary of the manager in any one financial year.

(ii) In the event an manager's office is too small to realistically achieve these extra payments, placement at a bigger DO on a temporary basis is permissible until they are achieved, once the managers at that DO have already reached target.

[rubberbond]

Pt acting don't even get bonus do they?
So not much better off than ft for all that hassle.

yes they do not sure how much they get tho.

The same as the others get. Not as much as people think though.

So you are saying acting managers get same as ft managers know for a fact they dont

First rule of Royal Mail is: "don't believe anything you're told by a manager".
I know for a fact they get the same bonus. I've been there.

[aiden01]

Pt acting don't even get bonus do they?
So not much better off than ft for all that hassle.

yes they do not sure how much they get tho.

The same as the others get. Not as much as people think though.

So you are saying acting managers get same as ft managers know for a fact they dont

First rule of Royal Mail is: "don't believe anything you're told by a manager".
I know for a fact they get the same bonus. I've been there.

well i can only go what acting manager tells me and he says they get about a third of what ft manager gets

[Creditshampoo]

Pt acting don't even get bonus do they?
So not much better off than ft for all that hassle.

yes they do not sure how much they get tho.

The same as the others get. Not as much as people think though.

So you are saying acting managers get same as ft managers know for a fact they dont

If a acting manager takes over a role of say a night line manager he would get his normal contract PAY plus extra to top it up to the usual night managers PAY.

Covering a line manager when acting is around the same extra PAY as working a day off

[Dorset Plodder]

Answer to original post too much!! My observation being they couldn't organise a "drink" in a brewery. Personally I am clocking down my last 10 years just taking the money. In any other business our line managers wouldn't last five minutes, a real opportunity exists for RM to make considerable savings without impacting on service levels.

You win the prize mate I wondered how long it would take for that one to surface

[Dorset Plodder]

There is a scale:

DoM £67,589 + max 15% Performance.
Manager £54,875 + max 15% Performance
Lino £44,897 + max 15% perfomrance.

If you hadn't put the Bullying in I would probably have fallen for that mate. I know a Manger's Bonus depends on lot's of different boxes needing ticking, including WTLL, Have your say returns, Limiting Overtime, Getting Duties lapsed, Hitting 2D scan percentages etc. Anyone got a link to all those boxes? I believe prepping duties must be one as most Mangers seem to like throwing off walks or IPS.

[yellowbelly]

There is a scale:

DoM £67,589 + max 15% Performance.
Manager £54,875 + max 15% Performance
Lino £44,897 + max 15% perfomrance.

These were pay rates for some vacancies in Aug last year:

Current vacancies on RM Jobs:

Collection & Delivery Office Manager - Truro - Salary up to Circa £41,000 depending on experience plus £3,344 allowance, 10% bonus potential and 27.5 days annual leave.

Delivery Office Manager - Camborne - Salary & Benefits: From £29,129, plus a potential 10% bonus and 22.5 days annual leave.

Delivery Office Manager (Thame OX9 postcode) - Salary starting from £30,860 dependent on experience plus potential 10% bonus and 22.5 days annual leave

DSM Sheffield - Delivery Sector Manager

Salary starting from £51,600 dependent on experience plus potential 18% bonus, car allowance, private healthcare and 27.5 days annual leave

Not seen anything for Lino's.

[bustedflush]

There is a scale:

DoM £67,589 + max 15% Performance.
Manager £54,875 + max 15% Performance
Lino £44,897 + max 15% perfomrance.

If you hadn't put the Bullying in I would probably have fallen for that mate. I know a Manger's Bonus depends on lot's of different boxes needing ticking, including WTLL, Have your say returns, Limiting Overtime, Getting Duties lapsed, Hitting 2D scan percentages etc. Anyone got a link to all those boxes? I believe prepping duties must be one as most Mangers seem to like throwing off walks or IPS.

LOL....

It seems like the person beneath you did (fall for it)..

[max power]

You forgot the lap of the office bonus with a clipboard in hand and occasionally looking up to the ceiling £10 per lap

There is a scale:

DoM £67,589 + max 15% Performance.
Manager £54,875 + max 15% Performance
Lino £44,897 + max 15% perfomrance.

Performance Bonuses: (DOM rates, pro-rata to salary for managers/linos)

1. Bullying bonus:

0-5 Bullied £1,000

6-10 Bullied £2500

10+ Bullied £ 4,000

+£1k for each one that leaves as result if F/T, £750 if P/T to a max of 5 leavers.

2. Lapsing Bonus:

For each above leaver's round subsequently lapsed and forced onto rest of office:

Up to £5000 if none done on docket but forced into normal hours, sliding scale reduced down for every 10% not forced into normal hours, in £500 increments.

3. Purchase Orders Reductions bonus:

Complex, but essentially a percentage saving of office costs to a max of £3750 PA. Various items have different rates, (40% of the cost of each box of rubber bands for example, less than the average used for your size office). Each PDA battery not replaced when due has a £33.33% bonus rate, and all docket not entered and not spotted by the OPG's has a handsome 50% rate.

4. Management Substitute O/T bonus:

For each hour spent on frame, IPS or throwing off and not offering the work to an OPG, £5 (extra to salary already being paid) up to a maximum of 250 hours (£1250 lump sum) PA.

5. Spurious Disciplinary Supplement:

Basically on a 10% scale of savings made by dismissing OPG's entitled to IHR or EVR or ER as opposed to the 5-figure sums they would've been entitled to being Good Leavers.

6. Survey Payment:

A fixed £500 sum for having 95%+ Employee Satisfaction Surveys returned on time with the correct boxes checked to ensure a minimum 80% total satisfaction rate among OPG's.


(i) The combined payment of the above bonuses shall not exceed 15% of the Gross Salary of the manager in any one financial year.

[postslippete]

I really don't think greed is a financial issue. Its more of a heart issue.


DOMs used to be on a fantastic salary years ago but just like a lot of line managers, a lot of them got well paid off and left the business to do other things.

[Dorset Plodder]

TBH I can understand DOMs getting disheartened, They are Basically just "Yes Men". They sit on the Telephone Conference and the DMS tells them what to do. If they offered DOMs more independent authority on how to organise, and run, their Delivery Offices (and actually believed them when they said, "I'm sort staffed I need to recruit") I'm sure we'd get better results.

This Business is a joke when it comes to Low Level Management. I could imagine one of these Business Trouble Shooters looking at Royal Mail and having a Bloody Good Laugh.

[rubberbond]

TBH I can understand DOMs getting disheartened, They are Basically just "Yes Men". They sit on the Telephone Conference and the DMS tells them what to do. If they offered DOMs more independent authority on how to organise, and run, their Delivery Offices (and actually believed them when they said, "I'm sort staffed I need to recruit") I'm sure we'd get better results.

This Business is a joke when it comes to Low Level Management. I could imagine one of these Business Trouble Shooters looking at Royal Mail and having a Bloody Good Laugh.

That is a very good point, effectively they are not allowed to manage,just follow the script and do not deviate. Remember the mantras :
Mail is down,
our people are our biggest asset,(that particularly grates)
Why can't you complete?
That job is easy
Etc etc ,ad nauseum.