30hr contracts for all ????

[rubberbond]

Basically the runners days of beating the system will come to an end. Unless they run faster of course !

I wonder how many times we've heard that before,along with "I.P.S. will end",crikey ,it's been ending for years,but I was there this morning,as I have been for innumerable years, dutifully wading through tray, after tray. In fact, I was thinking of changing my username to ,"I love I.P.S." Sorted.

[rambo1]

Its so they dont need to give a pay rise. Same pay, less hours

Yeah but there isn't less work so it'll just be done on overtime (or they'll be in the do do when everyone says 'i quite like working less hrs for the same money') .

[rambo1]

So if we went to 30hrs across the board, then would the linos and DOM's? As there'd be no need for them to be there any longer.

[aposter]

So if we went to 30hrs across the board, then would the linos and DOM's? As there'd be no need for them to be there any longer.

Got to be there for the late finishers, also what about locker personnel?

Of course they could do away with paid breaks, increase round length to 6 hours, and put in a 4 day week, p/t working less hours mon/tues and f/t working wd/th/fr/sat

[Decky Boy]

Machines are taking over guys.... there's a £1,000,000 sequencing machine (in Exeter I believe) that does the work of 12 night shift staff on it's own. Letters/Flats and Door to Door Items are sorted/sequenced/bundled together before being issued to Delivery Offices

Soon there will only be parcel prep in Delivery Hubs in the morning... you'll not need a prep frame as the mail will have been bundled up for you by the new "super machines". It's not hard to see where thousands of hours can be saved... and jobs will go. Probably thousands or if you are a shareholder.

Anyone know any more about these machines ?

[Zicomurphy]

Was that paid meal breaks I see being binned right there

I was chatting to the Area Delivey Rep not so long ago and that was his view as well. Under the New "4 Pillars of Security", proposed by the CWU, they will push for a 35 hour week (obviously still being paid the same). BUT Royal Mail will probably look to getting rid of our PAID Meal Breaks! TBH most of the Dickheads I work with don't take them, work through them & don't even bother to try and claim any time in lieu anyway. So they're not going to kick too much against that. Do the sums: 5 x 40 minutes + 3 hours 20 mins (so in effect RM would only be "Losing" another 40 mins.

Surely the union will never agree to losing paid breaks at the same time as it's pushing for a 35 hour week. The whole point of trying to drop from 39 to 35 hours is to protect full time jobs when the new automation kicks in and indoor work is massively reduced. As you say, losing paid breaks would mean even a drop to 35 hours would only equate to working 8 minutes less per day on a 5 day week, which would completely negate the purpose of reducing the working week in the first place.

[citypostie]

So if we went to 30hrs across the board, then would the linos and DOM's? As there'd be no need for them to be there any longer.

Got to be there for the late finishers, also what about locker personnel?

Of course they could do away with paid breaks, increase round length to 6 hours, and put in a 4 day week, p/t working less hours mon/tues and f/t working wd/th/fr/sat

Change that to f/t mon-thur and P/t fri-sun and royal mail might get their way

[Lance Jack]

Was that paid meal breaks I see being binned right there

I was chatting to the Area Delivey Rep not so long ago and that was his view as well. Under the New "4 Pillars of Security", proposed by the CWU, they will push for a 35 hour week (obviously still being paid the same). BUT Royal Mail will probably look to getting rid of our PAID Meal Breaks! TBH most of the Dickheads I work with don't take them, work through them & don't even bother to try and claim any time in lieu anyway. So they're not going to kick too much against that. Do the sums: 5 x 40 minutes + 3 hours 20 mins (so in effect RM would only be "Losing" another 40 mins.

Surely the union will never agree to losing paid breaks at the same time as it's pushing for a 35 hour week. The whole point of trying to drop from 39 to 35 hours is to protect full time jobs when the new automation kicks in and indoor work is massively reduced. As you say, losing paid breaks would mean even a drop to 35 hours would only equate to working 8 minutes less per day on a 5 day week, which would completely negate the purpose of reducing the working week in the first place.

How many times have I thought the union wouldn't agree to something only to find they have?

[lightningpostman]

Machines are taking over guys.... there's a £1,000,000 sequencing machine (in Exeter I believe) that does the work of 12 night shift staff on it's own. Letters/Flats and Door to Door Items are sorted/sequenced/bundled together before being issued to Delivery Offices

Soon there will only be parcel prep in Delivery Hubs in the morning... you'll not need a prep frame as the mail will have been bundled up for you by the new "super machines". It's not hard to see where thousands of hours can be saved... and jobs will go. Probably thousands or if you are a shareholder.

Anyone know any more about these machines ?

sorted mail,

you kidding me, every office i have been to the frames are wrong and not how the actual walks are done.

what about the walks that no one is on , who is going to sift through the mail to evenly split the walk if you agree to take 1/4 1/2 of a walk.

just going to cause a whole lot of drama and disorganized mess.

[South_London_Postie]

So if we went to 30hrs across the board, then would the linos and DOM's? As there'd be no need for them to be there any longer.

Got to be there for the late finishers, also what about locker personnel?

Of course they could do away with paid breaks, increase round length to 6 hours, and put in a 4 day week, p/t working less hours mon/tues and f/t working wd/th/fr/sat

Change that to f/t mon-thur and P/t fri-sun and royal mail might get their way

HAhaha the full timers at it again trying to get the better end of a made up deal and shaft part timers with theoretical weekend work ! These same full timers who are gonna need us PT staff to help fight their pensions. Nice one mate :)

[SpacePhoenix]

Machines are taking over guys.... there's a £1,000,000 sequencing machine (in Exeter I believe) that does the work of 12 night shift staff on it's own. Letters/Flats and Door to Door Items are sorted/sequenced/bundled together before being issued to Delivery Offices

Soon there will only be parcel prep in Delivery Hubs in the morning... you'll not need a prep frame as the mail will have been bundled up for you by the new "super machines". It's not hard to see where thousands of hours can be saved... and jobs will go. Probably thousands or if you are a shareholder.

Anyone know any more about these machines ?

sorted mail,

you kidding me, every office i have been to the frames are wrong and not how the actual walks are done.

what about the walks that no one is on , who is going to sift through the mail to evenly split the walk if you agree to take 1/4 1/2 of a walk.

just going to cause a whole lot of drama and disorganized mess.

Probably no one at the DO (whoever has the responsibility for A+ updates at a given DO) has bothered to update the A+

[citypostie]

So if we went to 30hrs across the board, then would the linos and DOM's? As there'd be no need for them to be there any longer.

Got to be there for the late finishers, also what about locker personnel?

Of course they could do away with paid breaks, increase round length to 6 hours, and put in a 4 day week, p/t working less hours mon/tues and f/t working wd/th/fr/sat

Change that to f/t mon-thur and P/t fri-sun and royal mail might get their way

HAhaha the full timers at it again trying to get the better end of a made up deal and shaft part timers with theoretical weekend work ! These same full timers who are gonna need us PT staff to help fight their pensions. Nice one mate :)

Not trying to shaft anyone! I'm sure everyone will be equally shafted in any deal. Plenty of part timers will be shafted over the pensions If rm get their way I'm sure. If people aren't willing to fight over the pensions I won't be backing them in the future when it's something that doesn't affect me but does them, something I didn't think I'd ever say

[Dorset Plodder]

Machines are taking over guys.... there's a £1,000,000 sequencing machine (in Exeter I believe) that does the work of 12 night shift staff on it's own. Letters/Flats and Door to Door Items are sorted/sequenced/bundled together before being issued to Delivery Offices

Let me know when they've designed a Machine to post the mail through the letterbox. Until then I'll just be plodding on!

[Dorset Plodder]

Probably no one at the DO (whoever has the responsibility for A+ updates at a given DO) has bothered to update the A+

You're right there SP. Admittedly there's a few Idle Buggers that can't even be bothered to write down how they actually deliver their Duty (and just let the Reserves muddle around the best they can ). But when you do try and get the A Plus updated all you get is, "I've got to release the WPC to input it all.... and we're very busy .... we haven't got the time". So nothing gets done. At least the frames aren't as bad as when I joined years ago. I remember frames with bits of masking tape and the addresses hand written on, with minor modifications made with literally a fag packet.

[SpacePhoenix]

You can always tell when a DO isn't updating their A+ when you get bulk postings like electoral register postings, you get a load go straight to stacker 20 on the CSS